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Old 10-10-2009, 08:41 AM
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You have a good point. Peyton is all about Peyton, she is a dominant female and needs to be around a more submissive dog I think. It could be too, I have not done a great job of being the alpha myself. She always been the only dog and accustomed to getting her way within reason. When I have two dogs, I can't let that get out of control and if anything I should exert my authority over peyton and the new dog to a greater degree.

Self control is not her strong suit. It's better now, but not great and sometimes not at all. 99% of this is dog/people reactiveness. She will sit when meeting a stranger, but after a few moments becomes over zealous to play with the stranger. She get's so over excited, she "can't" sit down with that butt wagging. I can see her trying but in the end she looses control for the sake of play.

Dogs on the other hand, she just runs flat out. She sees one, will RUN to it regardless of my command, she can never be off leash without a fence and greeting all dogs like this can and has started fights. Self control is Peytons weakest link of all and other dogs are the weakest of her weakest links. The play drive in her is very very strong.

A trainer was suggested to me and she worked at Petsmart. I signed up for her basic obedience class even though I had already taught Peyton all the commands. My thinking was trying to get some help in dog reactiveness. She didn't have an answer either.

Here is a video I did last year of her in class. If I didn't have my foot on the leash, well, you know what would have happened. We haven't made much progress since.
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Old 10-10-2009, 08:59 AM
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If there are no dogs or no people, this is what I get. This was actually days 14-22 days after I got this wild child and she's as better than this today if the situation does not have dogs.

YouTube - Peyton Day 22

YouTube - Peyton at Day 14

This is how she greets most people unless they get her wound up.

YouTube - Peyton Progress
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Old 10-10-2009, 09:05 AM
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When Peyton was acting up I did not see any attempt at a correction until later in the video. When Peyton started acting up again I did not see any attempt at correcting the behavior.
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Old 10-10-2009, 09:19 AM
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I try to either not respond (be a tree) or either treat to distract her. The treat works for a second then it's back to her old self. I'm trying to spare the rod if I can.

I took her to another trainer, they put a martingale on her and tried to correct her. I didn't stay there long. Being snapped into submission is not my style and I felt guilty putting her though it. I didn't go back. I would rather deal with it than hurt her. I'm trying to find a reasonable compromise without being too harsh. I make excuses that it's her age, but at 18 months now, she should have made more progress I think. My fault for not knowing how.

Peyton knows leave it and does it very well. If I tell her to leave a squirrel she does a pretty good job now. I couldn't say that the first month I had her though. Leave it, works for squirrels and cats but not and never with dogs.
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Old 10-10-2009, 09:46 AM
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Someone did that snap thing to Pepper. To this day if you push her you get pushed back. Ask her and she will comply just fine.
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Old 10-10-2009, 10:07 AM
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Yeah smkie, I just couldn't do it in the first place. I do snap that padded flat collar sometimes if she dragging me after a dog, but she doesn't seem to get my intensity.

Peyton is pretty solid on many commands even the food ones. If I give her a new soup bone and say drop it, she drops it without hesitation. Sit, down, wait, heal, look and all the rest she's just as solid. It's the dog thing she fails on and her #1 reason she can't pass CGC. More importantly than that, she could bolt out and get hit by a car.

I've also tried keeping her further away from new dogs and treating her for good behavior as we move closer. She loves the treats and still wants to run to the dogs. If she sees a dog a mile away, it's party ON!

She wasn't socialized at all as you know when I first got her. Thinking that dogs socialization was needed to help with her dog reaction problem I took her to the dog park everyday for a month. It didn't get any better and if anything, only intensified her play drive.

I still take her to the DP often but not everyday. She can run and play at the dog park all day and when we come home, she STILL wants to run to other dogs.

I know I need to fix this, I just don't know how in the most humane way possible. Nothing I have tried has worked so far...dogs are a drug to Peyton, she needs rehab

The only thing I haven't tried is a permanent play buddy. That's one reason I'm looking for another dog.

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Old 10-10-2009, 11:16 AM
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May go look at Candy today as well.

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Old 10-10-2009, 12:12 PM
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Peyton is still pretty young right? Victor did a whole lot of simmering down when he turned 5. He still loves to run, but it is different somehow. More mature, less zany.

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I know I need to fix this, I just don't know how in the most humane way possible. Nothing I have tried has worked so far...dogs are a drug to Peyton, she needs rehab
I believe that a few months when you first mentioned this issue with Peyton, we mentioned reading the books "Click to Calm" and/or "Control Unleashed." Have you read those yet??
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Old 10-10-2009, 02:22 PM
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Peyton is 18 months and a fireball.

We met Sid, very sweet, shy, reserved dog. Wasn't any issues with the two, just not an instant playmate. Sid was young, a year is my guess. He'll come out of his shell but will take some time. Wanted to be social and would follow Peyton around, when Peyton turned and faced him, he would back off. He's very calm and no signs of aggression at all. In peytons case, it was taming the wild, in Sids case, it would be wilding the tame.

Peyton could help him with that and gain more confidence, it's in him just not developed yet. He could move in and I wouldn't even know he was here. The person he trusted the most would have a friend for life. He's a very sensitive dog.
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