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Old 10-02-2009, 12:32 PM
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Thank you all so so much. Hearing that this isn't completely abnormal behavior is really comforting. I got so scared perhaps he was deep down this little devil dog- lol even though I knew that was very unlikely. Starting today I will be picking up and treating a lot, and not reacting to growling.

Yes I do think he does this when he's overstimulated or excited. That's helpful to notice.

I will update you all in a few days!
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Old 10-02-2009, 12:32 PM
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I'm by no means an expert, but I try to look at these things through my dog's eyes. He's doing his own thing, probably having fun and suddenly here's this big ole human snatching him up. It might have hurt that one time, so maybe it will hurt this time too. And sometimes he's probably getting picked up to be put in a crate or taken away from a cool goodie like underwear or cords. Of course, his view of being snatched up away from fun is way different than our view LOL!

So, yeah, getting picked up isn't MORE fun than whatever he's doing. I'd work the pick up game that was described above and possibly even ask him to put his feet up on me to be picked up. Making it seem like *his* idea and all of that. Of course, asking him to jump on you might backfire, but with a cue on it you could work in an opposite cue for times when he doesn't need to be jumping up on you.
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Old 10-02-2009, 12:33 PM
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One more thing, jude doesn't seem to enjoy me petting him that much. He doesn't mind it, but he doesn't get happy to get pet. Is this just a puppy thing? They're still trying to understand human signs of affection? Is it because he comes with me a lot of places and gets pet by probably close to 50 people a day and he's just bored with attention? Thanks!
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Old 10-02-2009, 12:37 PM
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I'm by no means an expert, but I try to look at these things through my dog's eyes. He's doing his own thing, probably having fun and suddenly here's this big ole human snatching him up. It might have hurt that one time, so maybe it will hurt this time too. And sometimes he's probably getting picked up to be put in a crate or taken away from a cool goodie like underwear or cords. Of course, his view of being snatched up away from fun is way different than our view LOL!

So, yeah, getting picked up isn't MORE fun than whatever he's doing. I'd work the pick up game that was described above and possibly even ask him to put his feet up on me to be picked up. Making it seem like *his* idea and all of that. Of course, asking him to jump on you might backfire, but with a cue on it you could work in an opposite cue for times when he doesn't need to be jumping up on you.
Lol that's so funny you mention this- he was taken away from BOTH underwear and cords just this morning. He's generally not one to walk around looking for things to chew, but I got on the phone with a client as soon as he woke up and he was frustrated with that I think and went off to get into things.

Great way to look at it- trying to see it from his eyes. Thanks!
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Old 10-02-2009, 12:42 PM
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One more thing, jude doesn't seem to enjoy me petting him that much. He doesn't mind it, but he doesn't get happy to get pet. Is this just a puppy thing? They're still trying to understand human signs of affection? Is it because he comes with me a lot of places and gets pet by probably close to 50 people a day and he's just bored with attention? Thanks!
Maybe start treating him while you're petting him. Like hold his head, pet him, and treat him while stroking his head.
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Old 10-02-2009, 12:48 PM
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Finn wasn't a snuggler as a puppy... he was go go go then he'd fall over somewhere for a nap. :P. Now, after a busy day he's happy to snuggle up to me and get loved on. It takes time and bonding, and as the dog matures he tends to realize that resting for ear scratches can sometimes be pretty sweet.

Also, please be careful with how many places you take him. He's at a very young age and there's a lot of chance for sickness if they go to too many public places too early. Finn only went to friend's houses with vaccinated dogs, and other than that people came to our house for socialisation until he was about 14 weeks and completely vaccinated.
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So, yeah, getting picked up isn't MORE fun than whatever he's doing. I'd work the pick up game that was described above and possibly even ask him to put his feet up on me to be picked up. Making it seem like *his* idea and all of that. Of course, asking him to jump on you might backfire, but with a cue on it you could work in an opposite cue for times when he doesn't need to be jumping up on you.
^ this. Teaching a hop up/get off cue early (that's what I did with Finn) can really help jumping issues later on, as they will already have a semi-solid "get off" cue. Finn still impulsively jumps on people a lot when excited, but a quick curt "get off" reminds him of his manners, and he gets VERY excited when I pat my legs and "hop up!"
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Does he enjoy tummy brushings ???
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When I first got Mia there were a few days she was a bitey brat. I just had to be very firm with her and set boundaries. Some dogs also do not like to be petted or cuddled. I've had one of those before. It took a long time to get Trey comfortable with being held- he wouldn't bite, just he was very clearly not enjoying it. I started with petting inside his comfort level. Not too much, just what he could handle and give him treats for it. I'd gradually build on it until the point where he would lie down in my arms and go to sleep. Not all dogs come programmed with petting and holding meaning something good.

I agree on maybe slowing down a bit. Training is good but bonding is imo more important. Above anything, Jude needs to learn to trust you.
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Allie, that is a very good point about the 'get off' and 'hop up' command. Blaze loves it when I pat my leg or chest and tell him 'up!' and in turn he also likes it when I tell him 'off!' and we walk/run off and do something next.
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