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Old 09-20-2009, 02:05 AM
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Default Reputable BC/Aussie Breeders/Rescues in the NW?

Anybody? I'm certainly doing my own research, but I feel like I can trust a majority of the members on this forum

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Old 09-20-2009, 12:02 PM
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I've heard GREAT things about Pacific Northwest BCR (Pacific Northwest Border Collie Rescue* Dedicated to placing lost or relinquished Border Collies into working or active homes) and you might also want to look into TDBCR in Canada (That'll Do Border Collie Rescue).

As for breeders, you might want to join the BC Boards at bordercollie.org (BC Boards (Powered by Invision Power Board)) - lots of people in the working world there and a great place to meet people in your area who can direct you to breeders, trials, and lessons.
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Old 09-20-2009, 01:12 PM
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Do you care if they breed working dogs or show dogs?
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Old 09-20-2009, 01:19 PM
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And take a look at AussieBoard • Index page for a great Aussie forum. They've got a great list of breeders categorized by region. They also have tons of rescues listed and one of the mods is very active in Aussie rescue in WA.
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Here are some, I looked at Oregon, Idaho and Washington:
Hidden Valley Border Collies of Oregon (they don't mention testing on their site but if you enter their dogs' names on the OFA website you can find the testing).

Many don't have sites but here is a list, don't know who's good and who's not: Border Collie Breeders List

Oregon Trail Border Collies (show breeder)


*BKM Kennels* - Quality Australian Shepherds (show breeder-test eyes and hips according to site)

CTC Aussies - Liam Neeson of CTC (test eyes and hips according to site-show breeder)

Goldcrest Australian Shepherds Home (show breeder-most dogs have hips and elbows done, one has a CHIC number, some don't have testing but they are probably too young)

www.hiddentreasureaustralianshepherds.com - HIDDEN TREASURE (they do a bunch of different stuff)

Laurelhills Farm - AKC/ASCA Australian Shepherds (show breeder)

<TITLE>Champion Golden Retrievers and Australian Shepherds for sale (show breeder)

Tri-Smith Australian Shepherds (show breeder)

Selkirk Border Collies (they show but they also claim to herd and do agility)


Couldn't find a lot of working breeders which was disappointing...at least none that health tested. Keep in mind I did not look over those sites super well, just checked for health testing, litters per year and if they did something with their dogs.
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You're going to get varying information about show and working lines in these breeds. Aussies I find are less polar and less political but only slightly. Border collies... well you do need to decide where you stand on these issues before buying.

I suggest visiting the bc boards and reading up a lot there to understand the politics in this breed. The only breed with more may be the German Shepherd, lol.
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I would suggest staying far away from show breeders (okay, thats as nice as I can put it because every bone in my body really wanted to write something else like 'stay the crap away from show BC breeders ).

The first breeder that comes to mind in the NW is Laura Hicks Welcome to L & M Ranch <p>

Another one is Don Couch, you can find his contact info Border Collie Instructors: Northwest

I agree with StarDogs that checking out the BC Boards is a great place to start and they will be way more help in finding a reputable Border Collie breeder. A number of things are different in working vs show. In working Border collies they are bred because of there ability to work for long periods of time, instinct, trainability, working ability, stamina, health, etc. Most of the time working bred BCs have way better off switches to just 'chill' so they don't have to be doing something ever second of every minute (my 19 month old is currently sleeping beside me after being in a kennel all morning).

They are usually very healthy because they must have huge amounts of physical toughness to work stock for long periods of time and be good at it. Not to mention the amount of mental toughness/stamina it takes.
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Be very careful when looking at a lot of the Aussie show breeders. There is a lot of emphasis on flash over substance. Not all, I know of a great show breeder down in Texas who still maintains a great balance, but she's ASCA, not AKC.
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Whoa, thank you for all the help, guys! Some of those sites I reviewed lightly last night, and from what I saw, I liked, so I'll take that as a good sign. I'll probably look at them more closely later, when I'm in more of a 'lurking' mood, I guess.

Alright, prepare for long winds ahead.

To make it a little clearer- My boyfriend and I should be renting a house with a yard this coming winter/spring, and we'd like to get another dog, for lots of reasons. I guess the two primary reasons are as follows -
*It would greatly help my dog's separation anxiety. And for a while now, I've generally just wanted him to have a buddy.
*My boyfriend wants his "own dog". We both "share" my dog, but he wants a puppy to bond with/train, etc. Don't worry- he'll be doing independent research, too, but he's going to be away, starting tomorrow, for four months working outside of a town with little to no internet connection, and little to no resources(small mountain town lacking free internet usage, with a teeny tiny little library). And since I'm super excited(and it's probably just a good/responsible idea), I thought I would start looking now. (Oh, and just for good measure - in the event that we should break apart, these dogs would both be going with their respective owner. ie - my dog comes with me, his dog goes with him. We are both really very civil people, and not the type of folks who adopt a dog as a symbol of their relationship, and then dump it later. We've both stated we would rather be homeless than give away a dog.)

We are currently leaning towards "purebred" rescues, though we'd like to check out the breeder scene as well. The rescue scene just feels better for us. However, talking to breeders just might be a good experience.

The three breeds we discussed were Australian Shepherds, BCs, and APBTs.
I currently have an Aussie, and we both couldn't think of a more perfect dog.

However, boyfriend is interested in a dog that is small and light(think lady BCs?), as Happy, our Aussiedog is a little stockier than his own preferences. And possibly even more active.

As for APBTs, this breed is beloved by both of us, and we understand how passionate and amazing these dogs can be. However, I feel like a shepherd's temperament would be more suited to our lifestyle, and I don't know if a terrier-style drive is something we're ultimately looking for. We also house smaller animals, so that could very well be an issue.

So, it currently looks like the lean is toward BCs. We both agreed we would rather have a 'pet quality' working dog(if possible?). Not only are they preferable for our circumstances, but we probably won't be showing any time soon(and by that, I mean never). I also believe my dog was from working lines, so I feel as though I have an idea of what working dogs are like.

So, we're looking for a sharp dog with high drive and high training ability. A dog that could possibly go on week-long hiking trips in various climates, with frequent bouts of various physical activities. Strong mental stamina with the ability to learn a myriad of tricks is also in the mix.

Again, thanks so much for all the recommendations and advice. We are also open to the prospect of different breeds, as well as any advice for our situation. I'm a bit young and I've never dealt with actually going to a reputable breeder/rescue before, and I'm excited to do so. My only dog came to me at a young age, and I believe he was born from an Amish family farm who chose to breed their working dogs.




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You're going to get varying information about show and working lines in these breeds. Aussies I find are less polar and less political but only slightly. Border collies... well you do need to decide where you stand on these issues before buying.

I suggest visiting the bc boards and reading up a lot there to understand the politics in this breed. The only breed with more may be the German Shepherd, lol.
Thank you for the heads up Laurelin, this is something I haven't thought about. I feel like I know about 'dog politics' in general, but maybe not for particular breeds.

I do feel like I know a beginner's amount of Aussie Politics, however.
..Do you mean, for example, if you breed two Merle Australian Shepherds, it could be lethal to some of the puppies? Those types of politics?



I also thought this breeder (Tara Australian Shepherds) was somewhat interesting. Maybe it's just the opening picture on the page She's apparently just starting out, but it seems like she knows what she's doing. I was only skimming, though.
I have so much research to do.

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