Dog Site - Dog Stuff
Dog Forum | Dog Pictures

Go Back   Chazhound Dog Forum > Dog Discussions and Dog Talk Forums > The Breeding Ground


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 09-11-2009, 12:00 PM
currywoodcollies's Avatar
currywoodcollies currywoodcollies is offline
Puppy Dog
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Northeast Louisiana
Posts: 34
Default Do I have reason?

My collies had their first litter of puppies on Valentine's day of 2008. I had a lady email me way before I even bred them wanting a male collie. She told me he was going to be used as a seizure alert dog and MAY be bred for seizure alert dogs. Well, he is now just a stud and nothing more. Everytime I see him (in person or in pics) he looks scared to death. I found a thread about this woman on Complaintsboard.com. I have never been to this woman's home, but according to this board, it is disgusting. I have recently learned that she never lets her puppies or maltese outside. They are able to use the bathroom in the house. She keeps puppy pads everywhere and the puppies and dogs are hit and miss. I had a very long discussion/argument with her about how she should not breed her dog every heat. I hope she is not going to. Her collie just had puppies in April and she is in heat now. I have been looking her up online and she has apparantly used many different names and has many different kennel names as well. I do not think I have enough evidence that she is harming my dog, but I really want to take him back. This lady has mental problems and does suffer from seizures. She is 36 and lives with her mother. I should truly be angry with her mother.. and I guess I am. I looked for 2 years for my collies. I made sure I picked two that were healthy, beautiful, and had great temperaments. They also have good pedigrees and come from very reputable breeders. I feel horrible that I sold this dog to her and now she is undoing all of the hard work that those breeders and I did in choosing a good pair of collies. Her female is very far from breed standard and is not what you would call a "healthy" collie. She did not have this female when I sold my collie to her. What can I do to get my collie back? Do I have grounds to do so?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 09-11-2009, 12:04 PM
CaliTerp07's Avatar
CaliTerp07 CaliTerp07 is offline
Top Dog
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Alexandria, VA
Posts: 7,652
Default

What kind of a contract did you make the woman sign? That piece of paper is what's going to give you any ground to stand on.
__________________


Lucyfur CA O-NAC O-NCC S-NJC O-TNO S-TGN S-WVN HPN SG
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 09-11-2009, 12:06 PM
Fran101's Avatar
Fran101 Fran101 is offline
Resident fainting goat
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Boston
Posts: 12,490
Default

When you sold her the collie,did you make her sign a contract?
did you contract say that you could take the dog back if its being mistreated?

call her animal control in her local area, have them take a look at the house. if they take her animals away, show them the contract that SHOULD say "if you cant keep the dog, the dog returns to ME the breeder".

if you didn't have a contract, then im sorry but you are SOL


you could try to, talk to her, deal with her, buy the dog back if you have to.
__________________

Disclaimer: I work for Trupanion and love it/our policy! But I do not speak for the company or as the company.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 09-11-2009, 12:06 PM
release the hounds release the hounds is online now
Top Dog
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Midwest
Posts: 4,157
Default

probably nothing, next time be more careful


Next time you'll know that anybody that knows anything about service dogs will not be searching for a puppy in which to breed more service dogs. As soon as I heard that the woman would have been scratched off any potential list of every getting a dog from me.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 09-11-2009, 12:07 PM
Fran101's Avatar
Fran101 Fran101 is offline
Resident fainting goat
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Boston
Posts: 12,490
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CaliTerp07 View Post
What kind of a contract did you make the woman sign? That piece of paper is what's going to give you any ground to stand on.
you beat me to it lol
__________________

Disclaimer: I work for Trupanion and love it/our policy! But I do not speak for the company or as the company.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 09-11-2009, 12:10 PM
Fran101's Avatar
Fran101 Fran101 is offline
Resident fainting goat
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Boston
Posts: 12,490
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by release the hounds View Post
probably nothing, next time be more careful


Next time you'll know that anybody that knows anything about service dogs will not be searching for a puppy in which to breed more service dogs. As soon as I heard that the woman would have been scratched off any potential list of every getting a dog from me.
Oh I misunderstood. i thought she said that the woman wanted a puppy to train to be HER service dog.
why would you sell to someone that plans to breed your dog, service dogs or not?

I have a heart condition, and Im getting a puppy, i would LOVE if this pup had the potential to get her CGC and be my service dog so that when I faint, she can learn what to do. but im not counting on it.
you can't tell if a puppy is going to be good enough to be a service dog... it takes a very special dog.
__________________

Disclaimer: I work for Trupanion and love it/our policy! But I do not speak for the company or as the company.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 09-11-2009, 12:11 PM
sammgirl sammgirl is offline
ACoops favorite
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 845
Default

You probably do have a reason, but I don't know what you could do about it. Unfortunately, possession is 9/10 of the law, and that woman possesses the dog.

What you could do is call animal control in her area and put in an anonymous complaint.

Other then that, you're probably stuck. Those breeder's contracts rarely stand up in court, unfortunately.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 09-11-2009, 12:22 PM
sammgirl sammgirl is offline
ACoops favorite
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 845
Default

I thought better of posting what I actually think on this one, so I deleted it in favor of keeping my mouth shut.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 09-11-2009, 12:27 PM
currywoodcollies's Avatar
currywoodcollies currywoodcollies is offline
Puppy Dog
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Northeast Louisiana
Posts: 34
Default

I do have a contract with her and it states
Buyer agrees that at NO time will this puppy be re-sold or given to a puppy mill, dog pound, broker, or any similar compound. If at any time the buyer needs to find a new home for the puppy/dog, the breeder MUST be notified for possible placement assistance or return of the puppy to the breeder at buyers cost.

Buyer agrees that this puppy is to become a member of the family and is to be treated with love, care, and respect. Buyer must give all health care and attention to the puppy necessary to become a valued family member. This includes food, socialization, and medical care normally incurred with a puppy.

Buyer agrees to notify seller if there is emergency medical care needed for the puppy that the buyer cannot financially afford for any medical treatment not covered by this guarantee. This is so the seller can assist the buyer in finding options to help cover needed care costs in buyers local area. The buyer agrees to return the puppy to the seller (at buyers cost) with no refund if the buyer feels he/she cannot afford to give the puppy the proper care.

The woman was looking for a collie to be her service dog and she said her mother may want to breed in the future for another service dog when this one was older.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 09-11-2009, 12:35 PM
Miakoda's Avatar
Miakoda Miakoda is offline
Top Dog
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 7,661
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by release the hounds View Post
probably nothing, next time be more careful


Next time you'll know that anybody that knows anything about service dogs will not be searching for a puppy in which to breed more service dogs. As soon as I heard that the woman would have been scratched off any potential list of every getting a dog from me.

Yep.

All you can do is chalk it up to a lesson learned and be a helluva lot more careful to whom you sell puppies to.
__________________
The Hokey Pokey. That's what it's all about.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:31 AM.


1997-2013 Chazhound Dog Site