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Old 09-06-2009, 11:11 PM
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Assuming is just not a good idea.

Taking a sentence out of a paragraph thus out of content dont help.
That sentence did NOT pertain to the few GOOD lines of Working GSD.
It was intended as pet dogs bred not trained as PP dogs that naturally will chase .
But not all will defend without training. And even trained PP dogs can and will back off depending the pressure they put on the dog.

I have a fixed non breeding CAS I know will back down to pressure.
He wont be bred for that reason.

I love GSD and I miss them.
Not every dog I breed will BITE.
I have had harder time getting them less defensive than not .

If seems if you dont own a GSD you are not entitled to the SAME opinion a GSD owner has .

You made bold statements and generalizations about CAS LGDS that you have NO base of knowledge.

My comments of GSD is based on REAL work with them OFF line boards.
Take it or leave it ,
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Old 09-06-2009, 11:22 PM
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Is this the thread where I put in an application for a Kharma baby? If Dan gets out and we settle down with our own house... please send the littlest male to meeee! <3
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Old 09-06-2009, 11:35 PM
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LOL my eyes are burning going over Fila pedigrees I am i line behind you.
I want the ultimate and I want a Fila but I need karma for a smooch first.
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Old 09-06-2009, 11:55 PM
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I can't wait and I know these are going to be good d*mn Fila pups...which is good because it's apparently the last dog I can have for many years!
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Old 09-07-2009, 12:07 AM
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Assuming is just not a good idea.

Taking a sentence out of a paragraph thus out of content dont help.
That sentence did NOT pertain to the few GOOD lines of Working GSD.
It was intended as pet dogs bred not trained as PP dogs that naturally will chase .
But not all will defend without training. And even trained PP dogs can and will back off depending the pressure they put on the dog.

I have a fixed non breeding CAS I know will back down to pressure.
He wont be bred for that reason.

I love GSD and I miss them.
Not every dog I breed will BITE.
I have had harder time getting them less defensive than not .

If seems if you dont own a GSD you are not entitled to the SAME opinion a GSD owner has .

You made bold statements and generalizations about CAS LGDS that you have NO base of knowledge.

My comments of GSD is based on REAL work with them OFF line boards.
Take it or leave it ,
I never made any comments regarding the CAS. My comments where solely defending my breed, not belittling yours. I said before a bite is a bite, doesnt matter how its done, or where the bite is steming from. Doesnt matter if they have a full mouth grip in prey or defense, doesnt matter if they do a bark and hold or just go in for a bite. The job will get done (hopefully). Its all in what you want. But I DO have a ton of respect for LGD's, and am not so quick to refer everyone to them. They are breeds that need to be understood, and our society does not allow room for mistakes.

An intimidating dog who can put on a good show is all most people will ever need. And I think either dog (GSD or CAS) can do the job.

The only thing I am debating is the fact that you said GSD's arent naturally protective, and its trained into them. Still cant wrap my head around that.
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Old 09-07-2009, 12:54 AM
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you need to go take a nap or something. i went back & reread this whole thread & no one said the GSD is the ultimate anything (especially not me, i just finished that argument elsewhere). no one said anything derogatory of the CAS or LGDs (unless you count GSDlover's statements that they look like big teddy bears and that most american are too ignorant to take them seriously until it's too late, in that case they do & they are).
OTH you have gone out of your way to denigrate the GSD including posting an overbroad statement that could be considered willfully false. most working lines of GSD have been bred for a full bite, and various combinations of drives for AT LEAST the last 20 years if not twice that. i don't particularly care for the GSD do to some bad experiences but i am not breed/type blind enough to call them all crap (which is essentially what you did). i have enough respect for you & your passion for good working molossers that i tried to be subtle. you APPEAR to have taken the subtle the wrong way, so now i am being blunt. your side of the "debate" has been unnecessarily aggressive and blown way out of proportion. keep in mind i am a blunt A-hole on a lot of issues, so for me to see an overreaction in someone is just a bit weird.
anyway, I hope your feeling better soon and get back to your usual self.
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Old 09-07-2009, 01:35 AM
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Is this the thread where I put in an application for a Kharma baby? If Dan gets out and we settle down with our own house... please send the littlest male to meeee! <3
What? You mean you don't want a bitch?

Males are seriously easier from everything I've seen
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Old 09-07-2009, 07:12 AM
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Know how much I love Kharma, I can't wait to see little Kharmas running around!
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Old 09-07-2009, 08:56 AM
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What? You mean you don't want a bitch?

Males are seriously easier from everything I've seen
I do not think T-bone would be too pleased with another girl in the house... She thinks living with a human bitch is enough for her already
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Old 09-07-2009, 11:00 AM
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If you have a Fila you are never alone
Even when you're needing to go potty or take a shower.
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