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Old 07-18-2009, 03:19 PM
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Default I'm starting to wonder

if Auggie isn't enjoying it anymore.
He's practically walking courses. Today there was a point in the standard course where he came out of the tunnel practically on the side of it because WOW was he going fast... but for the rest of the course, he was pokey pokey pokey.

I... have nothing else to say... just... wondering.
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Old 07-18-2009, 03:20 PM
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how often are you doing agility? Do you ever take a break (kaiden had one winter off and came back crazy for it)
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Old 07-18-2009, 04:45 PM
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Weekly practices - about a half hour or so every time. We also get in the backyard and fool around just a little for about 10-15 minutes 2-3 times a week depending on how the weather is. Mostly weave pole work right now.

We haven't really been doing it very long to take a break... we just started last April (well, were practicing for about a year or so before that.)

He's been slow but I was attributing it to the heat. We're inside this weekend, and it's cool out AND they have the air on so it's actually rather cold in the building, so it can't really be blamed on the heat this time...


Maybe we should take a break. We just finished a round of courses anyway. There's a trial in September I would like to hit though. Maybe we'll quit until right before the trial and see how he's doing... I don't know. He didn't do POORLY today - in fact, he did great. If only he weren't walking the courses. =/
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Old 07-18-2009, 05:10 PM
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If his heart isn't in it, why push . I would have loved to do agility , but none of my Goldens had the " spunk " . Even in obedience they were slow and " La-tee-da " . The long down was their favorite ...LOL!
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Old 07-18-2009, 05:23 PM
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Try upping the rewards and lessening the work. Dogs tend to slow down for a reason.. is he sore? Are you over repeating (over training) things? etc etc
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Old 07-18-2009, 06:12 PM
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I feel the same, Grammy... that's exactly why I am questioning what is going on here. If he's not enjoying it anymore it's not worth it.

I sent an e-mail to his breeder/our trainer. She's out of town this weekend so she wasn't able to come watch. I do have video so maybe we'll sit down and watch the videos together, and see if we can't decide what to do. Maybe now is a good time to take a break since I've been wanting to do some herding work anyway. I don't know. I just feel pretty lousy right now. We've had a number of bad trials in a row and it would be nice to have a good run again. It feels like forever (in reality, it really hasn't been that long... he finally nabbed a leg towards his NA on Mother's Day and we only trialed one more weekend after that. It just FEELS like forever.)
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Cider hadn't gotten a Q this year until last sunday. We are always fast, but I was loosing her focus and she was stopping mid course to sniff and have fun as I wasn't fun enough any more. I tried upping the rewards in class.

Do a sequence, screw it up, play tug the entire way back to where I wanted to retry it from. 99.9% of the time if we screw up it's handler error. So I reward her for trying these days..

It has helped.. that is 2 trials (last sunday and today) where she has played fully with me, never left me to see the ring crew (a fave past time), not stopped to sniff..

We also have done better after a break. I stop usually when it's too cold to play outside in Canada anymore.. End of Oct-mid Nov.. and restart April-May.. She is more wanting to play after a break. Sucks being mid trial season.. But you have a few options to try.
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Old 07-18-2009, 08:31 PM
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Got an e-mail back from his breeder. Her suggestion right now is to drop him down into preferred. That will a) lower his jump height back to 12 and b) give us more time on SCTs. I think that's a good idea for now.
I feel sort of like it's giving up on him. We got our NAJ after two trials... right now I have one leg for an OAJ and one for his NA.
But I also feel like it might be the right decision. After our lousy measurement that got us our height card at 14.75 (ridiculous) I started to consider it. He can do 16, I know it. We got the NAJ at 16. But I think it's too much. Until we can figure out if we can challenge it... I think we'll be entering preferred from now on. Yeah. And technically, if he gets better and we can get the height card thing fixed, we can always move back into regular agility. I think running P is the right decision now. Last trial when I considered it I was crying and didn't think it was the right thing to do, and told myself "If it ever becomes the right thing to do, I will know, and I won't feel like this." I'm still sad... but now I think it's the right thing to do.

I really, really, really wanted to MACH him.
But a PAX is a big achievement too.



(Watch - now that I've made this decision, tomorrow we'll have an awesome day and QQ and I'll be back to questioning it. ;P)

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Aug is all heart!! He is really trying but I think with the jump height and his feet it may be a struggle. He really does have good foundation and no sense quitting with him just make it easier.
I got all teared up, LOL. He is really trying, and he's doing so, so good... he really is.
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What is the issue with his feet the breeder mentioned?
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Old 07-20-2009, 09:34 AM
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The first thing I would do is rule out a health issue including thyroid. Do you take him a canine chiropractor? If not that is something I would do ASAP. Stop training is the other thing I would do for at least 2 months, not one piece of equipment and play with him, do rally or something else that he enjoys and is highly rewarding to him.
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