Dog Site - Dog Stuff
Dog Forum | Dog Pictures

Go Back   Chazhound Dog Forum > Dog Discussions and Dog Talk Forums > Dog Health Care


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #11  
Old 06-11-2009, 06:00 AM
elegy's Avatar
elegy elegy is offline
overdogged
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 7,657
Default

flea and tick baths often use pyrethrins or permethrin, which are scary pesticides.

i'm not sure how frontline would cause kidney failure as it doesn't go beyond the oil glands in the dog's skin. it never enters the bloodstream, never gets to the kidneys.

lyme disease can cause kidney failure though.
__________________
ARCHX Luce CD CD-H RA RL3 RLV RL2X RL1X CGC TT
Mushroom Couch-holder-downer EX
Flyball Ninja Steve RA RL1 CL1-R CL1-F FMCh
and Bean FDCh-S
Save the pit bull, Save the world
Are you Unruly?
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 06-11-2009, 07:03 AM
corgipower's Avatar
corgipower corgipower is offline
Tweleve Enthusiest
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: here
Posts: 8,233
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by angelzeus View Post
hi i also been told that frontline causes kindey failure and i do believe this because i used it on my dog and he ended up with kindey failure i would not use anything on my dog anymore just a flea and tick bath is all that is needed thanks and good luck
I'm sorry about your dog, but I fail to see how that's scientific proof. There are so many dogs that get frontline monthly who never get kidney failure, and there are so many things that the dog can have that could lead to kidney failure, that I wouldn't blame it on the frontline just based on that.

Yes, you're putting toxic chemicals on your dog. The reason I prefer frontline over other spot-on flea and tick treatments is that frontline doesn't enter the dog's bloodstream. Not that it can't cause side effects, sometimes severe, but IMO, it's safer because of that.

If people are going to claim that frontline causes kidney failure or cancer, I'd like to see the studies that were done to support the claim. I did a google search and found nothing besides some people echoing the rumor. If you can find the studies, please share them.

There are many things that cause cancer, and
1. I can't protect my dog from exposure to all of them.
2. If he gets cancer and has had frontline put on him his whole life, that isn't proof that the frontline caused the cancer, as he has been exposed to other cancer causing things. Breathing the pollutants in the air causes cancer.
3. Much of cancer, IMO, is a metabolic issue - whether or not the conditions are right for the cancer to develop and grow.
__________________
The slayer of all things happy since 2010
Kibble feeder since 1973

Extreme owner of four herding dogs

puzzles, poetry and so much more ~ Doggy Puzzles created by me
sleep!!!
My dog Votes!
proud member of the MUMS 2009 7th place team CISRA 2009 1st place team SUMS 2009 2nd place team
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 06-11-2009, 07:28 AM
Dekka's Avatar
Dekka Dekka is offline
Just try me..
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Ontario
Posts: 19,234
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by elegy View Post
flea and tick baths often use pyrethrins or permethrin, which are scary pesticides.
They do.. but they only stay on the skin a short time (I think a few days) where as a spot on treatment goes systemically through the dog (which is how it workd)

ITs a trade off. YES what is in those products are carcinogens... but as far as I can tell not highly so. So you have to balance the risks... here I have only had ticks on my dogs ONCE in my life... so I don't use the spot on stuffs. If I did I would really have to look at the risks and make my decision.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 06-11-2009, 08:24 AM
Barb04's Avatar
Barb04 Barb04 is offline
Love my pets
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 27,022
Default

I've used Frontline for over 14 years and never had a problem with any of my dogs.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 06-11-2009, 09:28 AM
MH<3dogs's Avatar
MH<3dogs MH<3dogs is offline
Top Dog
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Cresco, PA
Posts: 512
Default

Thanks everyone! Hopefully I can talk some sense into my BF or at least let him research if I can get him off the video games for 10 minutes.

I know there are risks with any type of flea and tick preventative but we need something. I live in PA and ticks are extremely bad this year. I do not continue it through the winter and have never had a problem. I've been using Frontline on my Midnite for the last 6 years (since we moved to PA) and she's still going strong at 13 years old!

The guy at the feed store said it was all over the news and internet yet I've come up with nothing as well CP.
__________________
Hannah & Rox
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 06-11-2009, 12:53 PM
elegy's Avatar
elegy elegy is offline
overdogged
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 7,657
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dekka View Post
They do.. but they only stay on the skin a short time (I think a few days) where as a spot on treatment goes systemically through the dog (which is how it workd)
i was actually looking at some of the flea/tick shampoos online this morning since i'm not very familiar with them, and some of them say they work for up to 28 days (which i had no idea about) on certain flea stages.
__________________
ARCHX Luce CD CD-H RA RL3 RLV RL2X RL1X CGC TT
Mushroom Couch-holder-downer EX
Flyball Ninja Steve RA RL1 CL1-R CL1-F FMCh
and Bean FDCh-S
Save the pit bull, Save the world
Are you Unruly?
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:22 AM.


1997-2013 Chazhound Dog Site