Word usage - Pet peeves

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Do you have any pet peeves where words or their incorrect use are used? Even if not incorrect, what about those over-used, trendy words?

I have a few. One is judgmental. Everyone says, "Oh she's so judgmental!" It's said with disdain, assuming there's something very wrong with being judgmental. What is wrong with being judgmental? Of course, coming to a judgment without having any facts or a few view points to look at is jumping to conclusions and skipping over the normal course to come to a logical judgment. But being judgmental in itself, I find nothing whatsoever wrong with it.

judgment - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary

Main Entry: judg·ment
Variant(s): or judge·ment \ˈjəj-mənt\
Function: noun
Date: 13th century
1 a : a formal utterance of an authoritative opinion b : an opinion so pronounced
2 a : a formal decision given by a court b (1) : an obligation (as a debt) created by the decree of a court (2) : a certificate evidencing such a decree
3 a capitalized : the final judging of humankind by God b : a divine sentence or decision; specifically : a calamity held to be sent by God
4 a : the process of forming an opinion or evaluation by discerning and comparing b : an opinion or estimate so formed
5 a : the capacity for judging : discernment b : the exercise of this capacity
6 : a proposition stating something believed or asserted

synonyms see sense




Another pet peeve of mine is the over-use of the word, absolutely. It is used so much by people when they mean simply, "yes." Someone asks them a question and they say, automatically, without thought as to it's exact meaning, whether it is or isn't, "absolutely." Is everything that one says, "yes" to, absolute? LOL. I guess it could be.

without exception; completely; wholly; entirely: You are absolutely right.
2. positively; certainly.
3. (of a transitive verb) without an object.

–interjection 4. (used emphatically to express complete agreement or unqualified assent): Do you think it will work? Absolutely!


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Origin:
1525–35; absolute + -ly


Synonyms:
1. totally, unqualifiedly. 2. unquestionably, unequivocally, definitely.

Of course, it's all rubbed off on me, so I have found myself using both of those words incorrectly or too much.:p
 

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I hate those two also. Where is it at? At implies a place. So does where. Not only is it redundant, it's ending a sentence in a preposition, a no no.

Yes, and irregardless. Regardless already states that it's regardless. Irregardless...does that mean that it's not regardless? LOL.

I know this is common, but people try to be correct and use "I" because they have heard that John, Mary and I are going to the store." The trouble is that it is incorrect to use I when I is used like, "This matter is between John, Mary and I." It should be, "This matter is between John, Mary and me." If you take out the others' names, would you say, "This matter is between I?" No, it is "between me." Of course, what is between one's self?" LOL. But you get my drift. It depends on who is the object and who is the subject.

Now, sometimes I need help with whom or who....not in every case, but sometimes I get confused. I need help with that one.

Lay and lie I totally get and I don't like to hear, "Go lay down." "Lay the book on the table. Lay your body down" Yes... "Go lie down." "The book is lying on the table"....not "laying on the table."

It's funny how these things deteriorate. That is what happened to the latin language. It deteriorated so badly, that it is hardly used anymore. I think it's a good thing to keep this most expressive language alive and well. So, I'm going to work on those things I don't quite grasp.
 

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"I could care less" drives me bat **** crazy. So you're telling me that you actually care? If you don't care, you should be saying, "I couldn't care less."

Saying "like" every fourth word (or more frequently).

Beginning a statement with "I mean" when you have not actually said anything yet. Example:

Questioner: "Would you tell us how you feel about the situation?"
Answerer: "I mean, you know, like I don't understand how like a person could um like not feel this way about the um like ah I mean the situation is bad."
 

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Hmmm.....well technically the judgmental thing people call one another is correct, based on:
4 a : the process of forming an opinion or evaluation by discerning and comparing b : an opinion or estimate so formed


Irregardless drives me up the wall. It just sounds so wrong. Even the dictionary says it means the same as Regardless, so to use it instead.
 

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Eddie Dude! It's like...I mean....those same things (could care less) drive me like totally nuts too. I mean, like take, "could care less." It's totally like....I don't care much, but I care some. So I have a little ways to go before I get to less. :p
 

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LIfe is too short for me to give a care. As long as I get the gist of what someone is saying I figure that is all that is important. I am sure people get annoyed that I often do not capitalize. If my left hand is aching, especially in the last two digits I don't bother. I figure it is that was for quite a few people. I noticed on our lyme board it is pretty common place.
 

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Hmmm.....well technically the judgmental thing people call one another is correct, based on:

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4 a : the process of forming an opinion or evaluation by discerning and comparing b : an opinion or estimate so formed
Yes, but why are people who are forming an opinion or evalutation by discerning and comparing called "judgmental" as though its a politically incorrect thing to do? It is used that way a lot....with disdain that someone is "judgmental." How dare they be? LOL.
 

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As long as I get the gist of what someone is saying I figure that is all that is important.
I disagree. The gist will become less and less of a gist, as the language erodes more and more. The incredible expressiveness of our language will deteriorate and it no longer will be expressive and the gist will get lost. That is what can happen and has happened in the Latin language, as an example.

I think the English language is beautiful, the most expressive, has the most intricate meanings and the smallest nuances to vary a meaning, that it is a shame to let it erode and fall apart. I love the way language works. I wish I had a better command of it. I hope, as generations go on, that it doesn't become a waste land of slop.
 

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You know what bugs me? I use "..." a lot when I'm typing. And I hate it, LMAO. But it fits in so many places!
 

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"I could care less" drives me bat **** crazy. So you're telling me that you actually care? If you don't care, you should be saying, "I couldn't care less."

Saying "like" every fourth word (or more frequently).

Beginning a statement with "I mean" when you have not actually said anything yet. Example:

Questioner: "Would you tell us how you feel about the situation?"
Answerer: "I mean, you know, like I don't understand how like a person could um like not feel this way about the um like ah I mean the situation is bad."
lol everytime Hyia says keeewwwwl (cool) I ask her for 5 words. IT has become one of her more favorite word games. SHe had some saved up for me from class, even had them written down so she wouldn't forget. Exotic however didn't really work for native things.:D

IF I am reading it in a book or magazine then i think it is out of bounds because it should have been proofed out but on a forum to me it is different. WE write our replies as if we were speaking and for many I doubt they go back and proof read their replies. I know I don't so I don't expect anyone else to. Maybe I am just bad.
 

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Jenna gets "challenge words" from her phonics specialist. Last week it was "subtle". I kept using it and she kept saying, "huh?"

I hope she eventually gets it :dunno:
 

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the only thing that bugs me is

Me: Do you mind if I sit here?
Other person: Yes

yes, so you do mind... and you dont want me to sit here?
but they mean Yes, I can sit there.
 

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Yes, but why are people who are forming an opinion or evalutation by discerning and comparing called "judgmental" as though its a politically incorrect thing to do? It is used that way a lot....with disdain that someone is "judgmental." How dare they be? LOL.
Yah but it's the way they discern and compare. You can't form an opinion without comparing it to something. However, usually people labeled as 'judgemental' are forming snap, uneducated/biased opinions.


Well, I still find the word "yummy" when used by an adult TO another adult repulsively puerile.
Oh that reminds me. The word 'tummy' instead of stomach, or 'preggers' or 'preggo' (sounds like a spaghetti sauce) instead of pregnant, irk me. There's a few more but those are the ones that come to mind immediately.
 

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However, usually people labeled as 'judgemental' are forming snap, uneducated/biased opinions.
Yes, that's what I mean...skipping over valid weighing and measuring and jumping to a conclusion. So, they're called judgmental. But judgmental doesn't mean coming to a judgment blindly, with no comparing, no valid process of coming to an opinion. They didn't judge at all. They skipped over leaps of logic. So, to me, that's not being judgmental. That's just jumping to conclusions without any substance.

On the other side of the coin, people who have reasons for their opinions, who compared and thought things through are called judgmental AS THOUGH they did something wrong....just because they may have an opinion that is not popular.

So, the word, to my way of thinking (my judgment...lol) is not being used correctly in some cases. For example....I've been called judgmental for criticising CM's methods. "You're bashing and judgmental." It's as though my conclusions are baseless, prejudice and not viable. That's the tone I get with the word, "judgmental." Maybe I've misconstrued. Maybe they're saying that I have looked at many angles, compared, thought things through and I've made a judgment or an opinion. Well, duh...yes, I have. Rffffff.
 

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