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sparks19

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that is what I love about our doctor. if she isn't 100% certain on something... she will go and look up information
 

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that is what I love about our doctor. if she isn't 100% certain on something... she will go and look up information
thats why we usually go to another in the practice but Jeremy made the appointment and forgot to double check since it was our normal day of the week. Turns out she was on vacation. :cool:
 

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Will it be better under a government run and government controlled system? Let's not forget that our government is just as profit hungry as any other business out there.
 
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Will it be better under a government run and government controlled system? Let's not forget that our government is just as profit hungry as any other business out there.
To me, it's really a horse a piece. At this point, yes, there are still a few available choices for private citizens to pick up that actually are worth it. But there are very few independent companies out there anymore, and some like United HealthCare are the largest owners of hospital groups, the insurance groups and a little known company called ingenix that has a lot of power over "medical necessity" decisions and reimbursement.

There are groups of people in those companies that are making health care decisions for people, gov't or not, there is a board of people making decisions for their best interest, NOT yours.

It's been a steady shift of reduced payments to providers, increased premiums to the insured and increased out of pocket expenses in the way of co-pays and deductibles for the insured. The end result, a lot more money being funneled to the boards and share holders of insurance companies.
 

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My dad is a pharmacist in charge of the ICU ward at a hospital. He has told me before that doctors don't know jack when it comes to prescribing something. Lol But, just like in veterinary medicine...you don't like it, get a second opinion. Go see someone else. Ask the pharmacist. Speak to someone. If the medication isn't working for you, that isn't the doctor's fault if they don't know. And if they do want to put you on another medication to counter a side effect, that may be the best thing for what they are trying to treat. It may not. Ask about other options. This works for our pets, dont see why it wouldnt work for us.
Definitely this. When I was pregnant with Aurelia I worked as a nanny for a pharmacist. She told me to double check with her if I was prescribed anything. Twice she caught class C medications that had been prescribed and the doctor KNEW I was pregnant. Heck, my doctor was pregnant herself!!!! That was messed up.
 
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It was mentioned that we have 'the best' pharmaceutical companies in the world in the US. Personally I don't trust them at all. First of all, when did it become common practice to advertise pharmaceutical medications on tv? To non physicians? That's messed up. Second of all, they aren't interested in actually curing medical conditions because there in no money in that. They are more interested in a constant supply of medications to treat symptoms because that's how they make money.
 
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Our companies probably are the best... at discovering drugs. Its expensive and hard. Other countries might have the scientists, but not the money, and others that have money might not have the number of scientists needed (we have a big pop advantage on Europe).

The TV ads need to go though. We also need not for profit company or government company that will work on and manufacture drugs that won't make money. There is not a lot of incentive to research rare diseases where you'll only help (and yes, sell drugs to) a handful of people.

As for purposely coming up with only temporary treatments? Not so sure about that. Which ones?
 

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Our companies probably are the best... at discovering drugs. Its expensive and hard. Other countries might have the scientists, but not the money, and others that have money might not have the number of scientists needed (we have a big pop advantage on Europe).

The TV ads need to go though. We also need not for profit company or government company that will work on and manufacture drugs that won't make money. There is not a lot of incentive to research rare diseases where you'll only help (and yes, sell drugs to) a handful of people.

As for purposely coming up with only temporary treatments? Not so sure about that. Which ones?
Take Savannah for example
Low weight gain/no weight gain- give formula, do not test the mothers milk OR the baby more then one blood test

formula causes puking- cure the puking

Formula causes rash- cure rash

(rash and puking started at the same time)

when REALLY it should have been

baby not gaining weight- test for allergies, test breast milk, test x,y or z

baby getting a rash and vomiting dont treat them SEPERATLY treat together since they started TOGETHER.

they put her through treatments for multiple symptoms instead of treating the symptoms together.
 

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Oh, I 100% believe somewhere someone has a cure for cancer and a cure for AIDS and is being paid to keep it under the rug so a handful of people can make an enormous profit off of people's suffering.

If you had the option of selling someone chemotherapy, radiation, along with anti-nausea, pain medication, and in the future other medications such as kidney medication, etc. for...idk, how much money does treating cancer cost? Thousands at least, if not more.

Or selling them a cure for much less, a few hundred dollars, which would you choose?

I hope most of us would choose the second, but I'm not naive enough to think the CEO of Eli Lilly or anyone in a similar position would.

Hell, what about the controversy with the guardasil vaccine - a vaccine that had very controversial side effects and testing done, make MANDATORY by a governor who's #1 campaign sponsor was the man who owned guardasil. How is that legal?
 
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Oh, I 100% believe somewhere someone has a cure for cancer and a cure for AIDS and is being paid to keep it under the rug so a handful of people can make an enormous profit off of people's suffering.

If you had the option of selling someone chemotherapy, radiation, along with anti-nausea, pain medication, and in the future other medications such as kidney medication, etc. for...idk, how much money does treating cancer cost? Thousands at least, if not more.

Or selling them a cure for much less, a few hundred dollars, which would you choose?

I hope most of us would choose the second, but I'm not naive enough to think the CEO of Eli Lilly or anyone in a similar position would.

Hell, what about the controversy with the guardasil vaccine - a vaccine that had very controversial side effects and testing done, make MANDATORY by a governor who's #1 campaign sponsor was the man who owned guardasil. How is that legal?
This. I don't trust them at all.
 

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Almost everything I voted for went my way this time so I can't really say I'm horridly disappointed with this election.

We legalized pot. Not that I am interested in smoking it but rather I'm done with wasting the thousands in taxpayer dollars to lock people up for possession.

We legalized gay marriage. Happy bliss for all my G&L friends out there.

The only thing we're still waiting on is the charter school initiative. I have a feeling it'll fail but who knows.
 

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Most schools in the South are already paid to label children as some mental issue ODD, ADD, ADHD, whatever) and give them prescriptions. If you refuse, they kick your kid out of the school. The more kids they label, the more money they get.
 

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Most schools in the South are already paid to label children as some mental issue ODD, ADD, ADHD, whatever) and give them prescriptions. If you refuse, they kick your kid out of the school. The more kids they label, the more money they get.
Context/Source?

I absolutely agree with you that schools get additional money for special ed children (since the schools then have to hire additional teachers for team taught classes, special ed administrators, para-professionals, etc). They don't get any extra money for a medicated vs. unmedicated student, however, and public schools can't just "kick a kid out". It is INCREDIBLY time consuming and difficult to get a kid removed from a school setting, especially one diagnosed as special ed.

We're going through it right now with one of my students. He is very clearly emotionally disturbed, and our school just doesn't have the resources to help him be successful. He's a danger to himself and other students, and is unable to coexist in a classroom with other kids right now without throwing tantrums and trying to stab himself with paperclips or pens. It's scary. We want him to be placed at the county school for emotionally disturbed students, where there are professionals that are trained in how to deal with those children. We have been fighting a legal battle for a year and a half now to get this to happen, documenting everything this child does and every reaction the staff makes. The boy's teachers have spent hours being instructed by a "behavior specialist" how to handle this child to keep him in school. Lawyers have come to talk to us about special ed rights. The boy's psychologist has been in constant contact with us letting us know about his progress and anything we should be aware of.

I am down right SCARED to teach the class he is in some days, and that's with two teachers in the room (I team it with a special ed teacher, who is AWESOME with this child). I am so afraid that something I say will set him off and he's going to stab himself or the child next to him.

It doesn't matter though, because mom doesn't want him moved out of our school, so he has to stay. Parents have the ultimate authority when it comes to their child (as it should be), and schools really can't "kick the child out" without parental consent. Even the "zero tolerance" weapon/drugs policies that result in automatic suspensions or expulsions for "regular" children don't necessarily apply to special ed children.
 

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