Watching Kharma, I've learned, too, not to try to keep her nails as short as most breeds. She has that extra knuckle that makes her paws work more like a cross between hands and cat's paws and she uses those nails! She pries things apart with them, hangs onto things and even grips with them . . . really neat to watch, so I quit feeling badly about not getting them to a more traditional length. I guess there's a reason they're so freaking tough :doh: