So... Fritz was picked up on the side of a road with his supposed mom and littermates. Let's just say he got a lot bigger than his shiba-mix-supposed-mom! He's at least 23" tall and around 75#!
Dodge was listed at the shelter as a Vizsla mix. I can see it, but I think that dad must have been a good combination of breeds as well. I definitely see some kind of shepherd in him, too! Dodge is probably 22" or so and about 30#.