Doberman or Rottweiler

I have to say that rotties have way more muscle mass than dobes. You might be able to see the dobermans muscles better, because their fur is shorter than a rotties. The dobes that I have seen are pretty slender and I never really noticed much muscle. In my opinion, rotties are more intimidating, because they are twice the size of a dobe, and their head/muzzle is bigger.

Rottiegirl, as a fan and eternal student of the breed, it's in my best interest to know who that dog is because he is SO lovely.

He has a head type that is needed in our Gene pool. So not only am I interested in knowing who he is, I'm interested in looking at his pedigree to see where he comes from.

A head that beautiful should really be appreciated. Knowing where it came from would be beneficial in looking at a long term breeding program.

That's why.

I don't understand why you don't wish to say, but if you choose not to, nothing I can do about it.

I have no hidden agenda.

I'd just like to know who the dog is for the above reasons.

She sorta mentioned it on the previous page...pretty much came out of someone's backyard. Lucky shot?

I meant that Dobies are more toned with their muscles. I like thin dogs with muscles. Alot of people are more familiar with Rotts because they always run up to and say oh that rott is beautiful assuming that is what Chico is. Rotts are twice the size weight wise and definately have more mass I wouldn't say muscle mass though but I don't think that they are as intimidating as the Doberman. Rotts look fat to me and don't look like they can run as fast as a tall lean Dobie. I really do not like the structure of the rott but thats my opinion. I have seen some good looking rotts before but people stive to make their rott really think and it just doesn't look right in my opinion. And their head and muzzle look like a cute stuffed animal you can cuddle with, not intimiding. They have shorter legs and more mass that doesn't allow them to run as fast as Dobies and I want a dog that can catch the bad guy. Don't get me wrong I've seen some really fat Dobies before that were a disgrace to my breed. But in reality I would fear any dog chasing me.

Is stealing photographs without giving credit immature?

The larger one in her profile still has the PHOTOGRAPHER'S COPYRIGHT ON IT!

That photographer is a professional dog photographer in Eastern Europe.

A lot of rotties have weight problems, but that is the owners fault. I have seen way too many that were very over weight. Rotties are not supposed to be fat. They are supposed to be pure muscle. I completely understand where you are coming from though.

I have seen many rotties that could run just as fast as any dobe. I think their mass fools some people. People think they are slow, but they could easily catch a running person any day! Bears are huge and they have a lot of body fat, but they can run up to 40 mph.

I think a rotties head looks like a cute stuffed bear when the are puppies, but not when they are full grown. Then they look like a grizzly bear, lol. If I had to choose... I would rather be attacked by a dobe than a rottie, just because they are sooo powerful, and their jaws are stronger in my opinion.

No. But *I* know the kennel now.

I'm just waiting for confirmation.

She does not have permission to use these COPYRIGHTED PHOTOS.

This is the reason why she does not want to say who the dog is.