Ella's Lead collars?

You find it sad, or you're sorry? Which one??? See, it's muddling your brain!! Careful, you don't want to end up in a *seriously been injusticed out of good customer service* coma. Real thing, happened to a friend of mines cat once.

Opinions on EL collars: OK. Keep it in the thread.
Stupid cat fighting that make my teenagers seem mature: Take it to PM.

K. Thx. Bai.

Boooooooo! Where's the fun in that! Kill joy! It's just banter back to walking the dogs then I suppose, yawn

I dont think that Jessie needs help and I understand her point of view.
Looking at her pixs and the way,she seems to have been treated by EL makes her mad & I understand.
Either way,The OP can decide either way as she,now,knows:
The good,the bad & the ugly!.

Wait, who does that? I can be bought!

This made me legit laugh.

:thumbsupsmileyanim:

I agree with this.
The OP asked for opinions on the collars and people posted their opinions. The overwhelming majority of the posts are positive but there are a few that are negative. I would have to go back to check but I don't think the OP asked only for people who like EL to post.

Sometimes people have negative experiences with companies. If you have a poor experience with a company, you remember it, and are more likely to tell people about your negative experience than your positive experience. One person's poor experience doesn't negate another person's positive experience, nor does one's positive experience negate another person's negative experience. I don't really understand why it's a big deal for anybody to be sharing their negative experiences any more than a positive review should garner "Oh you love your EL? You must be a big suck-up!!"

The responses here are kinda confusing.

FWIW I saw the big nasty thread when it happened, and seeing how they reacted made me uncomfortable. I like Becca and love her dogs and think about her (and her dogs) often - in fact I was just thinking about Luke two nights ago - and it made me sad that she left the forum. But I don't think I would have bought from them.

You summed it up much better than I could. That thread was a big old mess and turned me away from Ella's lead as a company.

I actually kind of thought this thread wouldn't blow up. Silly me.

I have 3 collars from EL. Two I'm kind of meh on, but the rainbow tag collar we have gets a ton of use. I have no problem with their products, quality wise. However, I saw the deleted thread and I can't buy anything from people that act like that. I was also friends with Becca on FB and a lot of things on there also made me uncomfortable. I seriously doubt that I'll ever order from them again.

And I make it a point not to get to know the people that run the companies I want stuff from now. :lol-sign:

I have several EL collars. One I really liked when I got it, but the collar didn't hold up. It was one of the first stitched collars they did with colored leather sewn over thicker piece of leather.

Ronon's collar I love. It was make with a good piece of leather. It is super soft, supple and has worn amazing. I wish all the dogs had gotten collars out of this leather. It was the harvest design and it a really beautiful collar.

Jack's was too small when I got it and I know I measured right, but it barely fit him in the last hole and now it is too small for him. It was a bit stiff and just never suited him. And he is my smallest dog, so I have no real use for the collar.

Casper's I wasn't happy with the leather. It scratches and dents really bad and was too thin for him, if he pulls, he stretches the leather, but the conchos have done good and never came off like some other collars I've bought from other makers.

But I also didn't like Stillwater leather collars and my dogs ruined the one they had while the Ellas Leads are all still decent and usable.

I will order again, but be a bit more selective in the type of leather and design. No more rhinestone conchos or colored leather.

Thanks for the opinions and experiences, everyone. I've decided not to purchase from them.

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I have to admit that one of the reasons I order stuff from The Collar Shop (and send business that way, when possible) is that I've known Jacki online for years, and am FB friends with her. I like her. But yeah, that can go the other way really easy.

I will not support this company, either. I purchased a leather collar from them (my first 'legit' leather collar) and it bled. It got wet when I was bathing Lizzie and it bled alot. I'm very glad it wasn't actually on her.

They did give me a refund, thankfully, but the way it was worded was they only gave me one because 'I was a good customer'.

My dogs are rough and tumble. I need leather collars that can handle that, so I went to another company and haven't had a bad experience yet. Lesson learned: leather collars CAN be sturdy and all leather collars are NOT created equal.

And if every time anyone asks a question about EL the threads go like this, no one on here will buy from them due to the drama surrounding it.

It doesn't have to be EL vs Paco every time on here when EL comes up.

We've been over it a thousand times. There's multiple threads and blogs and facebook pages and you've driven a good poster off the forum.

Let it go already. It's been two years; let's all just move on from this. You've won.

If all you want is "to save someone their hard earned money" then all you have to do is reply with the 2nd quoted paragraph. Instead you're, two years later, repeating the same schlop ad nauseam- citing threats, mistreatment, claiming they are thieves, and wallowing in any chance you can get to drag their name through the mud. That's not concern for potential customers, that's a vendetta. And when someone makes SO MUCH effort to make someone else look badly, I start to question *that* person's character and motive, NOT the company being badmouthed.

Yes, I like Rebecca. Yes, I like Ben. Yes, I am a huge fan of Ella's Lead and consider myself a friend to them. But even if I didn't, the horse is freakin' dead. You're bashing someone knowing **** well they are not here any longer to defend themselves, and let's face it - even if they were here to defend themselves they'de just be considered abrasive or rude for not bending over and grabbing their ankles. They can't win.

Like Nolu said, you won. You saved some poor unsuspecting customer from spending their hard earned money on a nice collar. Here's a cookie. MOVE ON.

Oh yes, cause Jessie is the ONLY one that has had a bad experience with the company.

Actually I was the FIRST one to give them a bad review on this thread.

So...get over it...everyone likes something different and everyone's opinions are different. So..here's a cookie...move on. Geez. That sounds rude doesn't it.

I never bought an EL collar, i know people, in person, who did, and they were, put lightly, crap, IMO, much like the cheap leather collars one gets at petsmart.

That aside I have never seen so many people get attacked over their opinion on some collars. Maybe this was two year old news to SOME of you, it isnt two year old reviews to some of us. Some of us are new, and I have to say that IME crappy product aside the comments that the owners themselves made on the screenshots turned me from EVER sending them a dime of my money.

Well, to be fair, most of the time, the owner of a company being reviewed is not a member of the forum where said review is taking place and don't get to defend their products. If someone posts "I really hate Hartz"for example, no one says "that's not nice, the manufacturer isn't here to defend their products". There will ALWAYS be good and bad reviews for any company..it's just part of having a business.

On topic, I do not personally have any experience with their products. I'm fairly picky about my leather collars and my dogs generally only get one each, so I figure I might as well get the ones I like and have experience with, so I know I'll be pleased.

ETA: there are lots of collar makers out there to experiment with. I do like the looks of Karma Collars' leather collars. But, as I mentioned, the dogs generally only get one leather collar (unless there is an awesome sale), so I haven't had a chance to try them out yet, lol.

Except that the OP was asking specifically about the difference between EL/Paco. Nobody else made it about the two, other than the OP. So... yes... the thread WAS to be EL vs Paco.