We are an informational source to Shiba Inu enthusiasts as well as newcomers to the breed. We also have one active breeding pair, which we breed once a year.
Suwannee Sunset Shibas
What are your breeding goals if you are breeding the same pair repeatedly?
And since your site says you are breeding to the AKC standards.. why are you breeding a cream?
I don't see much on your site for health testing, and why is your guarantee for only one year on things that aren't generally tested for until the pup is 2 years?
So....I went back and quoted the first page of responses. Some may say I'm biased, because yes, I'm married to Dekka....but those that know me also know that I'll argue with her too if I feel she's wrong about something.
So, in the first response, all I see are questions to the original post. They are direct and to the point, yet there is no maliciousness, or 'witch hunt', strictly straight questions that any well educated dog person would (and SHOULD) be asking of a breeder.
If the original poster, which we have now learned was a webmaster, had came back in a timely manner and replied to these questions, a lot of this would have been avoided in the first place.
Later, suwanee comes on and told us this was posted without her knowledge. Sure, it happens....unfortunately, when you hire someone to do something, be prepared to deal with any side effects, good or bad.
I was wondering the same thing, Dekka.
I'm looking at your website, but I don't see anything pertaining to titles, health testing, etc.
That's it light the fires n burn em out.
I'll grab my pitchfork.
Sure... there are loads of these dogs in shelters... Dizzy do you expect us just to accept and say YAY!!!! ?
If they have a valid reason they can explain. If not they are BYB who are harming their breed of choice by producing un health tested dogs with no guarantee with no plan other than to sell pups...
I don't think anyone was craping.. they were asking questions. Or are we supposed to be falsely happy for a few posts and then ask the questions? Actually when people post in the welcome thread I ALWAY say welcome and never ask those sorts of things. But when you put your site on the SITE area of the forum its not unusual to expect some discussion on the site.. whether its your 1st post or you 10,000 post...
We have seen people come on Chaz over time and promote businesses (not just breeders) and of course, some are great, some are bad, and a lot are somewhere in the middle. Some of the ones that aren't as great don't survive, some learn and improve. The ones in the middle, hopefully learn and get even better. The great ones, they will also tend to try to learn and improve as much as they can.
Do some make mistakes? Sure, I know we've made a few too. The difficult part is swallowing your pride, and learning to pick up and keep going, learning and improving along the way. I have scars from dog bites, some were my own fault, I'll admit that. Some were unavoidable, but happened. Some were from trying to do things that others said couldn't be done, like working with abused and neglected rescues that only had us as a last chance.
I love to welcome new members , but people who join only to advertise really erk me !
To be fair, it does say this on her site:
Though, that does not assure that the parents are tested, I do know some breeders who do test and don't mention it on the site. 1 year is not much of a guarantee, but it is hard to find good guarantee's, and that's fairly average.
I know nothing about the breed, and cannot say much, but I don't much like jumping all over 1st time posters either.... I just take a wait and see attitude, if they posted just to advertise, ignoring it is the best bet, because all these posts (mine included) are doing is keeping the thread active!
Sorry , but I like to see new members join Chaz for for reasons other than $$$
Reading through the rest of the thread, it's the amalgamation of other comments that turned this thread sour, not any one post in particular IMO. Had the original questions been answered in a timely manner (which is a pretty reasonable request on a DISCUSSION forum, this thread would have remained a lot more civil in tone.
It's unfortunate, but as I posted a long while ago, if the board was run better these things wouldn't happen. (see my post here
http://www.chazhound.com/forums/t94714-9/#post1331462
I personally only know a couple of Shiba's, one is competing at AAC in a high level....I want to say that dog might have been on the world's team, but I'm not certain, so don't quote me! I think they are awesome dogs though.
Suwanee (I hope I've got that spelled right, going by memory!) I'm looking forward to being educated about Shiba's, and I suspect many others here are too. However you will also find there is enough knowledge here that facts presented need to be correct, or in many cases it will be corrected. Simply put, most are here for the well being of the animals, their own, and dogs in general. This community tends to be vocal, but also tight knit, sort of like a huge, loving, and sometimes dysfunctional family. However, one doesn't get 'born' into the family, they must earn their way in by demonstrating things such as respect, knowledge, a willingness to learn, and occasionally a shot or two of humour!