Sandy Hook shooting...a hoax?

One more time. For emphasis.

Theory 5: Emillie Parker is not dead. This is the most absurd thing I have seen so far in the video. The video alleges not only that the girl is not dead, but that the parents were so stupid they brought out the wrong sister for the photo op. What? Do people honestly believe that? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTaC580hfPo It's a picture of her sister. Obviously. They look alike because, you know, they're sister's. This guy uses the same photoshop trick as the conspiracy video and gets the same effect. Check out their noses in this picture for further evidence: http://i.imgur.com/iSuf4.jpg

Theory 8: There was a planned FEMA meeting scheduled 20 minutes from the time of the shooting which helped slow down the response time of first responders.(Added due to popular demand). I went to the emergency services website for CT to investigate this. This class is offered regularly. It was offered on 11/17, 11/27, 12/3, 12/6, 12/14, and 12/17
In fact, digging a little deeper you can see they have had training classes like these for a long time, such as this one way back on 4/2/2012 called Emergency Planning for Schools (2 day course):
http://www.ct.gov/demhs/ical/eventDetail_page.asp?date_ID=CACBCCCDCE83CDCACA
These tragedies have been happening for awhile, and so has training people to respond to them. Debunked.

Theory 3: The nurse is fake and does not exist. This is completely false, and has been debunked with evidence: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r61PvN4U3x0














and now that I've had to get on google so I can look at images of mourning parents. I'm so beyond done with this issue.

I can't believe anyone who had been through a tragedy would even think of helping with the sensationalism of this video and passing it around.
Can you just IMAGINE if somebody had taken something awful that had happened in your life and turned it into a hoax theory? Picked around and looked for moments where you acted a certain way, said the "wrong" thing, checked for family members who were also this or that, watched your ever move, accused your loved one of not being dead at all and people passed it around in the name of sensationalism or "interesting things to watch" . Your life tragedy, your sadness, something so horrible it's hard for others to even think or imagine.. being used as a platform for wild government conspiracies and youtube hits.

That is what you are contributing to by sharing this GARBAGE.
I won't add an OUNCE of hurt to what those families are feeling by making this video bigger than it already is.

(and that is a general you, not YOU)

I don't judge how people deal with loss. The idea that the parents weren't "hurting" enough to satisfy the public honestly repulses me.

I have never lost a child but I am a funeral director and have attended more grieving families than I can remember. EVERYONE grieves differently what is right for one is not right for another. I have seen laughing, crying, brawling, and everything you could think of at funerals, all of it in the realm of normal.

My dad is a member of the Screen Actor's Guild. He hasn't acted in years, but is still a member from when he used to act and model. Does that mean that he was faking it at his father's funeral two or that he was hired by the government to make the funeral seem sadder? No. It means that he is a member of SAG. Lots of normal every day people are members of SAG.

And yes, I do think people who share this kind of disgusting drivel without first researching it to make sure that there isn't an explanation for the so called "inconsistencies." I went to school in a small town in Connecticut, not one of the schools in my town or in neighboring towns had a surveillance camera. I don't think it's even a tiny bit strange that Sandy Hook Elementary didn't have a camera.

Again, thank you Fran for an awesome post!

Just wanted to make sure people saw this one!! Thank you for sharing, Katielou!

@ Fran, I saw your post after I posted. Thanks for that... like I said, it gives me the "other side." It certainly wasn't something I blindly watched one video and believed. My feelings were 'wow, a lot of strange things'. But like a poster said in that reddit post, I think our mind does that to us a lot. We think things are sooo strange and such a coincidence when really they weren't. It just had my mind thinking is all. I don't think I'm a terrible person for feeling that way.

@katielou, I appreciate that. I know everyone grieves different, no doubt about it at all. I just can't imagine being so seemingly nonchalant after your child died the day before. I still feel it was a bit off. I think funerals for adults are a bit different than funerals of children as well. All are obviously incredibly horrible, but I just think there's a different 'feeling' in the air of a young child. Have you witnessed many childrens funerals under the age of 10? Just out of pure curiosity. I don't really like thinking back to my brothers to be honest. I just remember screaming, whaling, and just ugh... horrible horrible things from every one in attendance.

I know everyone grieves different, I am definitely not saying they don't. I dunno, the whole smiling and then seeming to get into 'character' rubbed me the wrong way. And it did when it first aired too. But I just chalked it up to he was in shock, which he very well most likely was.

Again, it just made me think is all. I did some research, and now I'm doing some on the other side, and leaning more towards 'ok this conspiracy theorist is grabbing things' now. Like I said, I didn't know WHAT to think. I was sick over it either way.

You're absolutely right. And I'm sorry for feeling the way I feel/felt. I mean... I can't help that it freaked me out a bit! And I'm not one to be gullible either. I typically roll my eyes at this kind of stuff.

On a much smaller scale, we HAVE been picked at and proaded over with my brothers death. I don't want to get into on here, but we read loads of hurtful comments on local news websites, and have received some nasty e-mails. Not to mention lawyers telling us my brother essentially killed himself ("oh he just jumped into the pool and sunk like a bag of rocks" was their expression to us multiple times). It hurts like HELL. So maybe I should've thought more about that first. My whole thinking went straight to the to-me abnormal behavior in the parent. With that said, there's a lot of other parents I have not seen, so I guess I cannot judge.

Anyway, I'm still reading, and I don't think I'm a horrible person for having it make me think a little bit. I DON'T trust our government to begin with, so I guess when the theorists have that kind of platform, it makes it 'easier' to believe such a thing.

I dunno, again, like I said... I didn't know WHAT to believe.... I'm glad to see things being debunked though.

Yes a lot of young children and infants funerals. People may not be laughing because they are happy at something but for some people it's a nervous response or its just their brains default response.

I have had more children's funerals that were beautiful celebrations of life than wailing horrible things.
A lot of people when they grieve put on a character to protect themselves. This is how I grieve. I become a completely different person when I have to deal with interacting with anyone when I am grieving.

What, exactly, IS normal for a man who just lost a kid in a massacre?


My point being... there's no such thing as normal for something like that. It's about as far away from normal as you can get.

Thanks for answering - I'm always curious how one gets through a job like yours. I think it must take a strong person! I don't think I could do it.

I guess I should say, the viewing was a lot more wailing and just becoming weak at the knees. The funeral had more stories, etc, so I am getting the two confused. It was all such a blur. I still can't imagine my mom and stepdad going on the news the next day and being so calm and collected.

But I get what you're saying...

We took photos of my brother at the viewing. Lots of people may find that repulsive. We have not looked at them since, but wanted them anyway. So I guess I just need to be more respectful of the families, regardless of what I may have thought after seeing the video, and googling. I was feeling so sick over it all, so am actually glad to take a breath and realize maybe my mind was getting the best of me.

All I know is its not a hoax... we lost a god friend in it, and its disgusting people are claiming it is one.

Shock does funny things to people. When my mom died I didn't feel anything at all. I actually felt somewhat relieved from all the torment we had gone through the months before with her illness and knowing she was at peace. I was so drained emotionally too. And I was very self-conscious that I was supposed to be sad and crying. I felt terrible for not crying. It wasn't until quite a bit afterwards that anything really sunk in at all. We did all sorts of things that could get misconstrued if we had been in the media spotlight like these families are.

What I'm trying to say is everybody grieves differently. I think it's silly to think there's a conspiracy because the parents aren't grieving outwardly enough for you. (general you)

It's easy to quickly judge when you carry than pain around so don't worry.

As for my job. I can make a grieving persons life just a tiny bit easier and for having the strength to do that I am forever grateful.

This. I didn't cry, at all, when my grandmother passed away. She's still dead. I loved her very much. I grieved differently than others.

Bottom line is, I cried along the news when this happened. Being through the loss of a child (or a sibling for me personally), we could relate. But of course on such a large scale, worldwide media attention, etc, and just in such a horrible tragic way, it's different yet not. So I truly hurt for these families. My heart truly was/is hurting.

I guess I should be taking my own advice here. I've always said I shouldn't judge others losses. I remember it was so difficult for me starting up high school again after he died, and all my friends were so concerned with 'petty' things (IMO) and I had to remind myself: "maybe her losing her boyfriend is the worst thing that's ever happened in her life! I can't judge that..." etc.

I know I'm making this somewhat personal, but that's because it really hit home with our family. And then to think it was possibly conceived by the govt, or *something*, just made me more ill. I guess, like I said, my mind got the best of me.

Very true.

I did not cry at my brothers viewing. I had spent 3 days prior to it crying and I think all my tears were just... gone. But I still was extremely solemn and expressionless. I just recall trying to take care of my whaling step-father (who I had never seen cry) and my mother who kept falling to her knees. I remember a priest telling me to try strong for them and felt great pressure to do so.

And you're right - with what little we're seeing through the media, etc, it's so hard to judge. Little snippets of news clips just aren't enough for anything. I don't trust the media to relay stuff, either, at ALL. I do believe it's extremely biased. So I think with my somewhat distrust of our govt, as well as our news media, my mind was spinning.

My ex, who is very 'they want to take our guns!!" posted it on FB. Ridiculous and appalling. How devastating and disrespectful to the families of the children and staff who passed away. And to surviving victims who will be forever haunted by that day. To have their grief turned into a spectacle to feed paranoia.

This, along with the horrible article I read about one of the slain children in which his mother talks about arranging his funeral and dealing with her child's lacking a jaw and hand has just made for an awesome day on the internet.

Whhaattt?

I think it should be common sense that this wasn't a hoax. Saying it is a hoax means that a WHOLE LOT of people were involved. You are calling the first responders who have seen the crime scene liars, teachers, the children, almost the whole community who, being close knit, may have known someone who lost someone that day. So a whole community ban together with the President and fake this? Do you know how unrealistic that is? For all those people to know its fake and not one spilling the beans? Even the little kids. Does everyone here remember the Balloon Boy? How the family wanted everyone to think that they thought the boy was stuck in the balloon, but in reality, they just wanted attention for a reality show of their own. And during one the of family interviews, the little boy naively told the truth about the whole thing during the interview. If the government wanted a way to turn the public's view and ban guns, why in the world would they risk letting children in on the whole thing?

And I don't know what interviews you guys have seen, but I've seen interviews of the families showing real tears. Have you've seen this interview? The parents and child are obviously distraught. Are you trying to tell me their tears are fake?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JD4FxDgwoNo

What makes me angry is that the video IS going to make people start disbelieving in this tragedy. Once that idea is planted, unless someone release a video of it occurring, many people aren't going to believe it actually happen.

As far as the shootings that have been occurring lately. I don't see how that is suspicious. There are going to be copycats. Many Psychos want their piece of the "glory cake." There are going to be more, no doubt about that.

^Truth