Ok, I have been directed to a couple different bernese mountain dog breeders in the surrounding states and we found one that we like but I don't know what all the stuff means pertaining to testing. He said that they ofa all their dogs at 2 years and then penn hip all their puppies at six months? He also has a 2 year health guarantee agianst defects. I'm so confused because I know when we got Lily the woman just told us that the dogs had their hips and everything checked and showed us some paperwork. So I'm not really sure what testing I should look for them to have. He did say their eyes were tested as well though too and they passed. We are thinking about being put on a waiting list for a puppy from him as the waiting list now, for pet quality, is already 2 years long. I wasn't sure what you guys thought though. I talked to him over the phone and he seemed to really know the bernese breed, he has no website though so I can't direct you guys to a website for help. He only lives 2 and 1/2 hours away. I don't know if it'd be worth taking a drive up there to look around before we get put on his waiting list or just getting put on the list and if we don't like his place we back out.