RP is my Dobe, Lyric's grandsire. Little Big Man is his sire and Crestline's (Mary's friend) Indian Princess is Lyric's mom. RP died not too long ago....some freak thing, not genetic apparently. So sad. He was an amazing dog and #1 in the country, I believe more than once. She got breeder of the year award and her lines are lovely, I agree.
I live about 5 or 6 hours from where she lives. I actually got Lyric from her friend, Klobar Dobermans, who shares the same lines. Mary Rogers friend (Crestline) in the vicintiy who breeds with her lines. So, there are three people there, who are friends and work together. It's pretty neat.
Karen Klobachur (Klobar Dobermans) raises her pups right in her kitchen and she is a neat lady. When I went to pick up Lyric, several times she'd be on her hands and knees scrubbing the poopy floor with some disinfectant while the puppies were all jumping all over her back and biting her. LOL. She was so good natured and rather loud. She just had this sort of boistrous personality. LOL. The pups were not one iota shy, little hellions. And she dearly loved them. They had good socialization.
Lyric is a wonderful example of the breed...such a nice temperament and very good looking. (LOL...of course, he's my baby and I'm biased) And after I described what I was looking for in a Doberman, Karen chose just the right one for me. I didn't want an overly drivey Doberman, but wanted mainly a pet, but one who could still have enough drive for certain types of "jobs." I wanted a little more laid back Dobe (if there ever is such a thing. LOL) and he really is pretty mellow at times.
Anyhow....good luck. Let us know what you discover. I guess our dogs are cousins of some sort.