No, King's pretty bad on a leash at first, and doesn't listen in general, but I have to feel better that more than one professional, well regarded trainer wasn't a lot more successful than I was at getting him to cooperate with him, they get as frustrated as I did with him. About the only things he does is come, most of the time, and sit, again, most of the time. Staying? Well, that's a joke. Molly listens very well, and is very well behaved, but King truly is "The evil genius". I've never had a dog nearly as smart as he is, only my old Beagle was close to being as dominant as he is, and one that truly is kind of catlike in his "I'm done with you now!" attitude. He just shuts down if anything rough is done to him, just yelling at him makes him flop around like a corpse, and gives you a dirty look, and before he developed Cushing's, he wouldn't even do anything for food, most of the time. If he got bored with training, and he got bored almost instantly, he would try to bail out, and leave. If he was restrained, he went into, "I'm dying" mode, and would just lay there and refuse to move. Toys don't interest him, except to keep away from Molly or one of his friends, and most of them are gone now, and he's really too frail at almost 14, to be allowed to just wander around with his younger buds, who outweigh him by 100% or more (one "Lab" is 140 and not fat! He appears to just be a giant Lab, not a mix), and are pretty rough, being younger Labs and Coonhounds. He got knocked down by one of the Coonhounds last week, and he didn't get hurt, but he was pretty cautious and stiffened up whenever one of them got close to him the rest of the time they spent together. Next time I will probably get a rescue dog or dogs and I would imagine they won't be anywhere near as independent thinking as King turned out to be.