Wanted - Mini Dachshund: Choc/CREAM dapple longhair MALE

Her aspiration is to show. As in been playing in doxies for 10 years, breeding and choosing not to show.

Molly, why don't you show?

Now I'm curious. I commend you for health testing, but why not show your dogs to their best advantage and get them involved in something? Earthdog, Confo, Obed, Agility......

I agree with what's been said - you'll be able to find a mentor through a Mini Dachshund club.

The only reason you have to get defensive about questions on an internet forum is if you think you are doing something that we won't agree with. In this case, you know you should be showing your dogs and you aren't.

I hope you come back to your thread and explain. Otherwise, good luck with the mentor search!

Okay, I think some of the replies have been a bit more harsh than needed though I also do agree with the points made. The part the concerns me the most is you're making a match already with a puppy who is 11 days old, how can you possibly know while she is that young, exactly what you want to breed her to? Just an idea, but you might want to consider instead using a stud when she is the right age. It doesn't tie you down to buying a male puppy to breed her to before you even can guess exactly how she or he will turn out. They may very well turn out to have a few minor weaknesses that may make them incompatible for producing the type of puppies you want.

Also, most reputable breeders who are producing show quality puppies, sell them with a contract that includes a clause dictating a "reasonable effort" to title the dog must be put in to keep breeding rights on the dog or by the age of 2 they can require spay/neuter or dock breeding rights until you step up. Many of those breeders also include a clause that dictates you need permission before the dog can be bred, even if it is sold with full breeding rights. If you plan on buying a show quality puppy, you will probably need to sign a show quality puppy contract, be careful with that if you don't intend to show.

I don't think anyone is trying to be rude or mean or call you out. I think that they are trying to make the point that if you want a really nice show quality puppy from good lines, you really are going to need to show the puppy. I will admit I'm bit shocked that after being involved in the breed for 10 years you can't think of a single breeder who could fit the bill. I've only been involved in my breeds scene for about a year but I could name off at least 20 different breeders within my breed whose dogs I'd like to have, some even in other countries. Of course, I'm pretty obsessed, and clearly have too much time on my hands being a no-life-outside-of-my-dogs-stay-at-home-house-wife.

I know our local breed club offers a yearly handling class, and a few of the all breed kennel clubs in the area offer them, as well as a plethora of trainers. Match shows also sometimes have a free handling class at the begining, so even if you don't enter the match you could go, stand close to the ring and watch the instruction. You can also contact the AKC and ask for a showing mentor. They are free and tons of help pre-show! I would suggest if you have a dog who will gait and stack try out a match show, you may even like it. If you pick and choose your shows carefully, learn to show your own dogs, and carpool/split hotel costs with another breeder nearby, it can also be pretty inexpensive.

Since people are all googly about health testing.. do you do it and not disclose? I found one doxie matching your kennel name in the OFA database for patellas. Not a dog from your site. I found 0 in the CERF database. You near brag about health testing.. patellas, eyes and PRA.. so where's the proof?

Under your dogs bios on your own site.. one has patellas done, but they are cerfed.. so you brag about health testing you don't do then?

I know you all want me to respond to all of your comments and "prove" myself to you, but I really don't think it would be in the best judgment to do so. I'm not one to fight or bicker on the internet and, I don't know... I just don't have the energy to do so. I don't have the need, know what I mean?

I think, actually, you should "prove" yourself. isn't that what breeders do? prove their dogs are worth the asking price.

If your dogs are show prospects, people are going to want proof.

If they are health tested, people are going to want proof.

Why would you say:

If you are unwilling to prove that the dog ACTUALLY is what you say it is?

To be honest, I had a suspicion that the OP was a BYB since she joined. She seems like a lovely lady who honestly cares for her dogs and I truly hope that she spays all her females and takes the time to learn and aquire a stud founder from a good breeder.

Her posts never proved it, but her website did. Who could see this and still defend her breeding practices when you take everything else into consideration?
mmorlino, I really hope you can get in touch with one of the regional clubs and become a member - you could have the opportunity to meet successful breeders. I don't see how anyone, based on the facts in this thread alone, could sell you a show puppy OR condone your breeding practices and if they did, I would seriously question theirs. I've never heard of someone purchasing a puppy to breed to another puppy later down the road. You seem to love the breed, please do right by them.

I don't post here often, I mostly lurk. But I've been suprised that her breeding practices haven't been suspect earlier.

On her site, upcoming breedings, Sophie x Baloo litter, Sophie was born Feb 11th 2009. The bitch would be less than a year old to have her first litter upcoming mid-January.

This is not healthy for the bitch, and the much boasted health tests wouldn't be done either.

I strongly suspect she breeds for candy colors and little else.

I'm sorry if this is too harsh, but I think this breeder needs to be re-evaluated and not advertise her pups on a forum.

:yikes::yikes::yikes:

That's. . . disgusting.

Oh dear god! I didn't want to ask her about her practices because I am trying to give people the benefit of the doubt more. But hell!

I looked at her website. I saw no contract info., so it looks like she will sell to anyone. Taking credit cards and pay pal. To me that is somewhat commercial. Show quality but nothing to back that up, as far as ch., titles etc.. She does love her dogs, and they are nice looking. But a BYB all the same. If she will do some testing she talks about, and get into some showing, she would know other breeders instead of coming onto forum to ask. Sorry, just my opionion.

If I were buying a dog specifically intended to be show quality, I wouldn't buy from a breeder who doesn't show. I would want the breeder to show, which would help to enable the breeder to know which pups are likely show prospects and which aren't as well as would allow for the breeder to be a mentor for me. I also would want to see a long line of CHs in the ancestry.

I have no objection to a breeder not showing in conformation. For me personally, I'm more interested in performance anyway. But if the dogs aren't proven show dogs, then the pups shouldn't be marketed as show prospects. It takes a lot of time, money and work to create a line of show prospects and the breeders that do so, prove it by showing their dogs and their progeny.

I also very much prefer to see a breeder at least be involved in the breed club. Whether they show or not, that involvement builds a network of breeders who can learn from each other and it helps the breeder to stay current on the health issues in the breed. For someone to be breeding for 7 years and need to come here to ask if we know people with a show quality doxie really shows a lack of involvement in the breed.

That says it ALL right there. I tried to say that, it just didn't come out quite so correctly!

Not showing doesn't really mean a bad thing for me. I love to see other activies, agility, CGC, therapy work etc..

but proof of health testing as well as breeding dogs that are of age are VERY important to me.. and most people looking for pups.

Not showing really isn't a bad thing to me either, but if you are looking for a dog with intent to show, then it is very important. Like you say, if agility and such is your intrest then that would be important. It all sort of depends on what you intend to do with the dog/puppy you purchase.

Exactly. I want to see agility and herding titles in the pedigree when I shop for corgis. For mals, I want titles in protection sport.

Regardless though of what I look for, part of what I look for in breeders in general is that their dogs can do what they claim to be producing. If a breeder is selling pups as "agility prospects", there should be agility titles on the ancestors. If their selling dogs as "hunting prospects", the pedigree should have dogs that are titled in field trials or that actually hunt in real life.

Ya definetly. if i was looking for a show quality puppy, I would want both his parents to be showing and titled as well as a nice family line with lots of titled dogs.

even just looking for a puppy to be a pet. i like to see SOMETHING, agility, therapy work, CGC, obedience.. especially if the pup is costing me as much as $650

Well, for $65 I wouldn't even ask for a pedigree or health testing. (I suspect that was a typo?)

For dogs bred specifically as pets, they can at least have a CGC and Temperament Test.