asking around for schnauzer

thank you alot for all the posts. We did find a breeder a hour away with black and salt pepper puppies and there only 200 . So we are going this Sat to take a look at them, they did send us pics of them and they sure are cute so we got to look at them better and ask a ton of questions to make sure there healthy and every thing.

oh and we did go by the shelter they had a few schnauzer type dogs but they were big like 25+ pounds :\ not sure what they were mixed with tho they did not know.

Talk to your mom, you need to realize something.

7 years ago i was just like YOU, all i wanted was a cute dog and breeders were so expensive that I decided I would save a couple of bucks and buy my cute little bichon frise at a backyard breeder from the newspaper. why not? i didnt want a show dog or papers, i just wanted a cute puppy! My mom told me she wouldn't even think of spending more than $300 for a pup so we went to go see the breeder, picked out a pup and brought him home

3 days later, the puppy came down with distemper, over $2000 in vet fees later, he did recover. Now he has MANY other genetic problems, that do cost a lot to keep up with, problems with his heart, knees, joints ect..

We could've saved all that money and heartbreak if we would've just gone to a GOOD breeder. all the things charlie has wrong with him could've been spotted and stopped if she had health tested her dogs.

You aren't just doing the wrong thing by going to one of those "cheap" breeders. you are doing a STUPID thing.

Charlie costed us $250 but if you add that up with the $2000 for distemper, $1000 surgery for his knees, and of course the heart xrays, medications, ect.. ect..
we've spend A LOT of money on him.

Now if we would've went to a GOOD breeder, Charlie mightve costed us a bit more AT FIRST. but all those other vet expenses WOULD NOT HAVE EXISTED. a good breeder would NEVER let a breeding like that happen, and if something does happen to your dog, they stand behind you and help.

and the pup is up to my MOM only, i cant not tell her not go get from these people its all up to her. She only wants a black female pup no older than 12 weeks.

i was only asking if any one knew of any breeders near me :\

any way this breeder does have papers showing all vet checks and every thing shows what vet gave what shot to the pup and when it had it. Shows all de worming done.

Maybe toning the 'advice' down a bit for someone who's obviously young would help....

These threads always get so accusitory, it's no wonder people either don't come back or ignore the less than friendly edumacation......

I agree, but in this case there are pages of very nice polite edumacation. It didn't seem to work. So then there was more fairly nice education.. Where do you go from here?

Sometimes people do need a metaphorical slap in the face with the truth about these things.

I just re read the thread (skipping the Snark with Boxer) I dont' see snark at the beginning.. perhaps you are reading in snark (as you seem to be on the 'lookout' for it) that isn't there. That is one of the hard things about forum life.. you can't read 'intent'.

I see someone who said they had read on the forum, has read up on the breed who got great advice.. and then came back and was whoohoo I found a great pup.

But it doesn't seem they took ANY of the advice that was given. And really I don't think anyone was rude about the vet check not equalling health testing. It is hard for some people to grasp.. I felt the post about it was clairifying not nasty in anyway. But really if you have done lots of research I would think if you are old enough to be on the forum you should be able to comprehend at least some of the basics about the breed and finding good breeders.