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Old 05-23-2007, 03:52 PM
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Hi Bahamutt, unable to open up the sight you posted. Wanted to see specific list you found, of states banning specific breeds, to date. Says webpage has expired?
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Old 05-23-2007, 03:57 PM
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Old 05-23-2007, 04:48 PM
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http://www.povn.com/rdows/
RDOWS site.
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Who wrote the list?

Seems to be plucked from thin air.
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Its supposed to be RDOWS.

The list however is not on the site, nor any mention on how they formulated it. While I find it likely that it is in fact correct (minus the 73 dogs instead of 75, as I pointed out) I do not like the idea that I can not find supporting evidence for their creation.
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RDOWS does not source their list.

I don't care who wrote it, or for what cause. Its all Machiavellian B.S.

Until people learn to lay out facts and supporting statements, this world will get nowhere beyond BSL and ill- written lists.
I have to agree with this. If you're going to protest something you had better know what it is you're protesting inside and out because those who are for the legislation will know their side.

Pugs?? Who bans a pug? I'd want to know what municipalities ban which dogs and the legislation index number with exact wording of the ban legislation. Without that information any protest appears to be a knee-jerk reaction and lacks credibility.

I don't like breed legislation either, but if you're going to fight something you have to be credible and you can't be that if someone just hands you a list without any information.
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If the list has made one person go digging, it's served a worthwhile purpose.
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Bahah, I honestly and sincerely don't think anyone here wants to denigrate the effort. However, you can't fight BSL with a list that has no source. That makes it hearsay. It would not bode well in an argument at, say, a public hearing. I think that's what everyone is trying to say to you. Nobody means harm to you or your sweet dog.
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RDOWS does not source their list.

I don't care who wrote it, or for what cause. Its all Machiavellian B.S.

Until people learn to lay out facts and supporting statements, this world will get nowhere beyond BSL and ill- written lists.
Whether its ill-written or not, the fact remains that this list could very well become a reality if something doesn't change
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Bahah, I honestly and sincerely don't think anyone here wants to denigrate the effort. However, you can't fight BSL with a list that has no source. That makes it hearsay. It would not bode well in an argument at, say, a public hearing. I think that's what everyone is trying to say to you. Nobody means harm to you or your sweet dog.
You said it much better than me.

Its one of my pet peeves, I suppose. While I do completely sympathize with the sentiment, its ingrained in my head that the only proper way to state something is with a book of footnotes and citations attached. I'm one of the more skeptical people that anyone will ever meet, so I thoroughly enjoy a page of supporting documentation to anything stated
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