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Old 05-31-2005, 11:55 AM
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Default Thoughts on Citric acid in dog food???

I just wanted some opinions on some dog foods I am interested in. The first food is Wellness, Natures Variety and Canadaie.

One of my concerns is, I was reading on a boxer forum about Citric acid (used to preserve food) can cause bloat when the kibble is watered down. Read this site and go down to the part of preservatives.
http://www.boxerworld.com/feeding/
I always water down kibble and add canned food with every meal, I also own 5 dog breeds which are prone to bloat. This concerns me.

As far as I can see Wellness only uses mixed tocopherols to preserve their dog foods. But, Natures Variety http://www.naturesvariety.com/ does use citric acid. I am really impressed by the ingredients that natures variety uses and the way they process kibble.
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Nature's Variety realizes how heat compromises many food components. So several of these heat sensitive food ingredients -- including probiotics, enzymes, nutritious oils and fats, and certain vitamins and minerals -- are dry enrobed back on the outer surface of the finished product through a process called Bio-CoatingTM. All Nature's Variety products are naturally preserved with vitamins and herbal extracts and hermetically sealed in oxygen limiting packaging.

The CANIDAE - All Life Stage Benefits does not use citric acid to preserve either. http://www.canidae.com/

I would like to rotate my dogs on these 3 brands of food. I am just concerned about Nature's recipe and the citric acid. Every thing else about this company sounds wonderful.

has any one fed Natures variety? what are your thoughts on the ingredients?
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Old 06-09-2005, 07:16 AM
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I got an answer on this straight from Nature's Variety. They said there is no documented proof of citric acid causing a dog to bloat. They have done research on bloat them selves and this is what they say.

http://www.naturesvariety.com/news_a...-Token.id=1038
Consumption of commercial dry dog food is thought to play a role in development of gastric dilation-volvulus (GDV). A recent study1 found that Irish Setters consuming a single food type were three times more likely to develop GDV (bloat) than Irish Setters fed a mixture of food types. Inclusion of table foods in the diet of large-breed and giant-breed dogs was associated with a 59% decreased risk of GDV, while inclusion of canned foods was associated with a 28% decreased risk.

To help prevent GDV Nature's Variety recommends food rotation and inclusion of fresh food in the diet, to include our 95% meat based canned diets and/or our fresh frozen (raw) diets in your feeding regimen, which all contain high moisture and no cereal grain.

1 M, Raghavan, et al., 2004. Diet related risk factors for gastric dilation-volvulus in dogs of high-risk breeds. JAAHA 40:192-203.

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http://greatdanelady.com/articles/on...loat_study.htm

scroll down to "Citric Acid/Fats etc.". the entire article is worth reading tho.
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Old 06-10-2005, 06:14 AM
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Thank you Mordy! I never thought to check on the Great Dane lady's website. You are a wealth of information. Now from what I understand from her article is that citric acid is not a cause of bloat. That is wonderful news.
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The Bloat study says -- one should not use a food with fat in the first four ingredients, or a food should not contains citric acid (a natural preservative) and the food should have rendered meat meal containing bone in the first four ingredients. Dr. Glickman's study suggests that these things cause bloat in canines. This conclusion is illogical, is made in the absence of real scientific research, is based in opinion only and severely flawed.
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