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Old 04-11-2007, 12:32 PM
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are there many if any differences in temperment in general?
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Old 04-11-2007, 01:25 PM
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As far as the breeds, no. The lines within will be different, though.
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Old 04-11-2007, 01:27 PM
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depends on who you ask. depends on the lines. of course, there are dogs who are registered as both, so i don't know what you do with that.

personally i think there's not a lot of difference between a ukc show-bred pit bull and an akc amstaff, but there tends to be quite a bit more difference between a working or adba-bred pit bull and both a ukc pit bull and an amstaff. it's the whole working-bred vs show-bred difference that you see within many breeds.
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right. i just wasn't sure, because so many owners are adamant that they are different breeds, so i was curious what the differences are [other than lines and looks].
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Old 04-11-2007, 02:17 PM
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I personally don't see much difference but I know some Amstaff people who will vehemently disagree.

I think you will find that Amstaffs have more lines that are more laid back. The AKC also has a tighter range of size variation although the "ideal" is the same in the AKC and UKC.
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there isnt much of a difference but like Amstaffer said the amstaff people will totally disagree with me on this.

The size is a difference but as far as personality. The amstaff has been bred down and has a more watered down personality from what i have seen but other then that they are the same dog.
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The amstaff has been bred down and has a more watered down personality from what i have seen but other then that they are the same dog.
Bred Down....Watered Down? Not sure you intend the negative connotations but I would contend that calmer or more civil doesn't mean "bred down or watered down". Because many Amstaffs are less DA than APBTs doesn't mean they are lessor dogs; Many would argue the opposite.
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Old 04-11-2007, 03:38 PM
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I dont mean it in a negative way at all! i love amstaffs but their temperment is less intense from what i have seen then the APBT.
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Old 04-11-2007, 03:48 PM
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i meant it to mean that the Staffy is less intence and not a drivey/ working type dog like working pit bulls. They were more bred to be pets and family dogs they were not bred to work. LAst i checked that is what Staffy breeders prided them selves on
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Old 04-11-2007, 11:39 PM
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I own an Amstaff and I will agree that there is not much difference. The Amstaff I have is quite a bit bigger than the show line Amstaffs of today. He's more the size of the older working lines. I also own a APBT puppy and I can tell you there is so little of a difference between the look, temperment, personality and everything else that it is crazy. You would think they were closely related. They both have to lay with their legs sprawled out behind them and they both love to steal things in our household (ie: cordless drill, couch cushion, 2 X 4, etc)
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