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Old 11-09-2006, 08:23 PM
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Here are some of the breeders that I pulled off of Onofrio.

http://home.earthlink.net/~aubridge/
http://www.legendgoldens.com/index.html
http://www.gold-rushgoldens.com/
http://www.xanthos.co.uk/
http://www.runnymedekennels.com/

I have no idea on the overall quality of these breeders, but it's fun to look at different kennels.
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Old 11-09-2006, 08:42 PM
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Here are some of the breeders that I pulled off of Onofrio.

http://home.earthlink.net/~aubridge/
http://www.legendgoldens.com/index.html
http://www.gold-rushgoldens.com/
http://www.xanthos.co.uk/
http://www.runnymedekennels.com/

I have no idea on the overall quality of these breeders, but it's fun to look at different kennels.

Thanks Showpug!!! You are helping me SO much even though you may not know it!



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The best way I can explain how to find the kennel names is by telling you what I did when looking for my breeder.

Go to the American Kennel Club website. There's a section titled "Events and Awards" and within that there is a search function, that allows you to find past events. You fill out what you're looking for (the state, what type of event- in your case it will be "conformation," and the time range- something like "from now to 3 months ago" should do the trick). From there, it will pull up a list of shows that occured within that time frame that meet your criteria. Click on the link on any one of the shows it's pulled up that says "view event results." Then you can simply click on the Sporting Group, and then Goldens.

It will give the names of Goldens that have placed. The kennel names will proceed each dog's name. For example- if I was competing with my Shiba boy (who is neutered, but that's not the point ) You would see his name as "San Jo Yuki Mai Tai."

San Jo is the kennel name, and is used on EVERY dog that the breeder breeds. When I was looking for Shiba breeders I noticed that locally, "San Jo" was popping up OVER and OVER again with BOBs and group placements. I had a pretty good feeling this breeder was producing some outstanding winners. So I met them in person, and went from there.

If you keep seeing "Goldspun" (just making up a name for the sake of the example), in front of winner after winner's name- you'll want to take a closer look at that breeder's program.

As a thirteen year old- you're the perfect age to start Jr. handling as well. This is a competition based PURELY on the presentation skills of the child handler, and has nothing to do with (or isn't SUPPOSED to have anything to do with) the quality of the dog. All you need is a purebred dog that belongs to you in order to compete. (It must be registered with AKC as well). It's a great way to start learning handling NOW, even when you don't have your Golden puppy.

If you don't have a purebred you can also try 4-H which does a similar Jr. handling competition, but allows mixed breed dogs.

I think it would be a great idea if you're interested. And would look VERY good to Golden breeders when the time comes.
Oh Okay!!! Thanks!!

So 4-H allows mixed breeds? WOW!!! That is AWSOME to know!

So if I understand this right......you could compete with a mix and still win? So what are the judges looking for than? How you handle the dog?
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Old 11-09-2006, 10:24 PM
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What we did also was go to a local show and look at dogs around there. We found one lady whose dogs we really liked and it ended up we got beau's breeder's number from her. We looked at a bunch of other local breeders, but we ended up going with her.

Have you checked out this site at all? It might help. PCA was really helpful to me.

http://www.grca.org/
http://www.grca.org/puppyreferrals.asp
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Old 11-10-2006, 05:11 AM
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don't limit yourself to dogs just in your area,

you should learn the golden standard so you know what to look for in a dog
you should research the history of the breed,

what kennels were top,
what kennels are top
what kennels are getting to the top

if theres a kennel that was producing high quality dogs, that has now stopped breeding, then you might want that kennel in the pedigree of your puppy somewhere,

there might be a certain dog/bitch you want in your pedigree,
there might be a certain dog/bitch you want a puppy from,

you should do amazingly large amount of research into the goldens, and just everything about them, and showing them.

you need to know what to look for in a good breeder most especially
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Old 11-10-2006, 09:51 AM
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Steve, do NOT worry I will do TONS of research on Goldens!!! Not saying that I do not know anything about Goldens but I need and want to do more research on the breed before I even go to a Kennel and talk to them
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So if I understand this right......you could compete with a mix and still win? So what are the judges looking for than? How you handle the dog?
Yes- you can compete with a mix and still win. This is because Jr. Handling (ESPECIALLY in 4-H), is all about the skills of the young handler- how well they present their animal. Depending on what breed your dog most closely resembles (say it's a GSD mix), you would handle your dog as people in the German Shepherd ring would traditionally handle their dogs. The emphasis is put completely on you- and your knowledge of dog-care and breeds (if I'm correct).
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Old 11-10-2006, 10:09 AM
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Yes- you can compete with a mix and still win. This is because Jr. Handling (ESPECIALLY in 4-H), is all about the skills of the young handler- how well they present their animal. Depending on what breed your dog most closely resembles (say it's a GSD mix), you would handle your dog as people in the German Shepherd ring would traditionally handle their dogs. The emphasis is put completely on you- and your knowledge of dog-care and breeds (if I'm correct).

That sounds really cool....although I know that Lizzie could probably never do it.......maybe...She is a border collie mix...but I think that it would be to much for....but than again maybe would have a ball....she LOVES to show off...and strut her stuff

Is there an age limit for the dog? and How old do the Handlers have to be?

And where would I find info on this? The AKC?
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As to finding a good Kennel .... your Alabama Golden Club should give you a list of good available litters.
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Tempura, I tried going to the AKC website and doing what you said.....well it seems to not be working for me

So I was wondering if some one could tell me how to use the site Showpug listed
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Old 11-10-2006, 06:30 PM
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There isn't an age limit for the dog in Jr. Showmanship.

For handlers I believe it's 9 years of age, with eligibility remaining until the day you turn 18.

If your girl is a mixed breed you'll have to compete in 4H (AKC requires the dog be purebred), which is a seperate entity entirely from AKC. I've never actually participated in 4H myself, so I would suggest searching it on the internet. You'll need to find a 4H group in your area (which shouldn't be too difficult to do).

And you never know- your girl might very well like to "play show dog." At the very least, practicing with a difficult dog will make you THAT MUCH BETTER at handling. Good judges recognize the difference between a handler that works hard with their dog and has a real bond, and those that have a push-button dog, one that shows itself. (You'll find a LOT more of these in AKC Jr. handling, where many of the kids "sign on" to fabulous dogs that are already champions).
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