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Old 11-03-2006, 08:37 PM
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Why? Well, first of all, I'm mildly allergic to dogs. It doesnt bother me too much, but every now and then I'll get little itchy bumps all over my face/hands/arms after being with the dogs.
Also, my dogs kill cats. We have 6 inside cats. I do not want another massacre to happen again!!!! It was bad enough the first time Aurora killed 6 cats. Even if they didnt eat the cats, they would still eat the poop.
My mom would go absoluty nuts if we had that much dog hair hanging around. She thinks its bad enough with the little bit of cat hair.
My dogs do NOT like it inside. I've brought them inside to the basement on extremly hot days, to help them. They just sit at the door, panting, being extremly uncomfortable. When we got Dakota nuetered, he spent that day/night inside. Once he was feeling better, he wanted back outside pronto. It was kinda unfortunate he was feeling better at 4 am. I had to lay there and listen to him scratch at the crate, move around, and whine for 3 more hours.
You may not agree with this at all, but I can assure you one thing, my dogs recieve just as good care, attention, as everyone elses. Just because one keeps thier dogs outside doesnt immediatly make them a bad owner. You got to look at more then that.

Thank you for explaining. I know some dog breeds like huskies a lot of times very much love being outside, and I understand the need for working dogs, sledding dogs etc, as long as the facilities are effecient, but I do have a few problems with trying to justify keeping them outside.

Many dogs have a prey drive, but can be trained to live in peace with cats when you are there, and crated/left in a different room when you are not home. I am sure there are many people here who do this. Otherwise, quite frankly, if I had a cat I would not be getting dog breeds that had a high prey drive when I would not be willing to work with this situation.(or I would not have gotten cats, depends on who came first) I don't agree with that excuse at all.

I am not going to comment on the 6 dead cats.

In regards to a dog eating the poop, once again this is both a training issue and an access issue. Its extremely hard to train, so I do not give access in any way to the cat box to my dog.

If you get a dog breed that sheds, you live with the hair. You do not require the dogs to stay outside.

In regards to "I have a small dog". How come it always "treat all dogs like dogs", but then it comes down to "you have a small dog". Small dogs do have attachements to there people, but many of them can take the same temperatures of the bigger dogs. We just seem to be more accepting of bigger dogs outside, but not small ones.

The dogs wanting to go back outside can have a lot to do with them being used to being outside, and also being used to going to the bathroom whenever they want outside. Why have a dog to leave it outside all the time? (I know some people do this for working breeds and when they are at work, but that is not what I am talking about)

I am not bashing you. You stated why you are doing it and I am telling you why I don't understand it.
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Old 11-03-2006, 09:42 PM
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I dont think they could ever be trained to live peacefully with cats. I can get her to live semi-peacefully with the other dogs, but anything smaller then her, its food. Trust me. Unless if you would like me to keep her on a 1 foot leash, with a choke chain and muzzle so she could live inside?
As for the 6 dead cats, Aurora got loose one day, and headed straight for the neighbors house. Cat after cat, grabed it, snapped its neck, flung it, and moved to the next one. A very horrible thing to experiance. I do not wish to have that happen again.
As for the cat boxes, we really dont have anyway of making it no dog access. Cant put it up high, they can jump up there, and we have a cat that wont jump up anything higher then 2 feet. Dont have a spare space big enough for the 4 boxes.
As for the dog hair, that is really, quite minor. Its more of my moms problem then mine. I dont mind the dog hair, she does. I'm use to breathing it, eating it, having it constantly on me, getting it my eyes, heck, I probably have it in places I dont even know about.
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I know some dog breeds like huskies a lot of times very much love being outside, and I understand the need for working dogs, sledding dogs etc, as long as the facilities are effecient
Then whats really the problem? The dogs are provided with a excellent house, food 2x a day, water, more exersize then you can imagine, and lots of love and care. They all recieve the best vet care possible, since I keep them outside, I'm under extra stress to make sure everyone is happy and heathy. You have no idea how much pressure I put myself to make sure everyone stays in 100% perfect health. You might not understand it, but it works for me.
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Old 11-03-2006, 10:09 PM
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I was considering Igloo's for both of the boys.
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Old 11-07-2006, 09:48 AM
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Then whats really the problem? The dogs are provided with a excellent house, food 2x a day, water, more exersize then you can imagine, and lots of love and care. They all recieve the best vet care possible, since I keep them outside, I'm under extra stress to make sure everyone is happy and heathy. You have no idea how much pressure I put myself to make sure everyone stays in 100% perfect health. You might not understand it, but it works for me.
I see a difference between trying to keep a whole sled team inside, how many dogs is that? 6-10? and just having 1-3 dogs to keep inside. There is a difference because many people have them for working dogs for there lively hood. If I could not fit one dog into my house, and they where not a working dog, then I definatly would not be getting any others.
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Old 11-07-2006, 04:11 PM
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Right now I have 10 huskies, 6 of which are currently in training, 4 are 4.5 mo. old pups, who will start training most likely in Dec. (Just working with them on foot right now)
Even though I dont depend on my dogs for survival, they are working dogs 100%. All but one of them, (Dakota) them have very strong working backgrounds, and were bred to be a good athlete, not a good inside dog. (Infact, the first people to own Aurora tried making her a house dog. They gave her back a few months later.)
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Old 11-07-2006, 05:09 PM
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This is one of the reasons why I no longer have any interest in racing - I'd like my dogs to be house pets.

All eight of my dogs are now house dogs, including my two retirees with hardcore race dog pedigrees. You can see the temperamental difference between the ones bred for work and the rescues who were pet bred, but all of them appreciate being inside. I currently have five crates set up, dog beds on the floors, and a spare single mattress in my bedroom for the dogs. Arthur has decided that the corner of the couch is his and sleeps there every night.

I keep the cats outside or in another part of the house when the dogs are in (they have free run of my living room, bedroom and hallway). During the day when the dogs are in the yard, the kitties come in.

It requires a bit of extra work, but it can be done, and I enjoy the added bonuses of having my crew inside.
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