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Old 08-08-2006, 01:59 AM
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... can't stop a dog from peeing in the ring when they HAVE to go! *LOL*

My mistake, of course. I spent the weekend at three days of shows/trials about 200 miles from here. On the third day, Khana (21 month old chow) was in advanced rally and she peed on her way over to the ring. I put her in her soft crate and watched as they handed out the ribbons for the advanced B class. We were second in for the next class. As the first dog went in, I got her out and did a little warm-up. She was very distracted but I figured it was a variety of reasons (hot day, she's young, third day in a three day set of trials, etc.). I was just hoping she wouldn't leave the ring.

We hit the sixth station (360 circle left) and she swung away from me out into the ring, dropped her nose to the ground and JUST as the thought hit me that she might need to pee, she squatted and let go. I felt so bad because I knew it might affect other dogs coming into the ring after her. I have always been so careful to make sure my dogs potty before they go in, and since she had peed on the way over (maybe 15 minutes earlier) I didn't think she'd need to go again. But evidently she drank more water than I realized!

Now for the good news. Khana completed her Rally Novice title on Friday, score of 95 (out of 100) and a third place with 19 qualifiers. I moved her up to advanced and she qualified on Saturday in advanced. It was a bit rough - score of 89 - but for her first time ever in the ring off-leash I was proud. She earned a second place too.

My biggest fear was that she would get the zoomies and head out of the ring. The rally ring was not wooden ring gates, it was posts with two plastic chains looped between the posts. Dogs could go right under the bottom chain with no problem (and some dogs did leave the ring). Khana didn't give a stellar performance but it was relatively steady and I never lost her.

Trick (10 year old GSD) was wonderful as always. She earned a 99 and a first place to finish her Rally Advanced title on Friday. On Saturday she went into the excellent class, and we got a score of 89 - but ten points of that was MY fault as I messed up a station. BAD ME! Trick only lost one point. Sunday I redeemed myself, had the same exercise and this time I did it right and we earned a score of 97 for a second place in Excellent B.

Trick is a pretty amazing girl. She's so reliable and steady, even though I know this showing stuff she just does to please me. I rarely put a leash on that dog and nearly all of her training has been off-leash and with very few corrections. She now holds three CD's, two (and 2/3) rally titles, her novice agility titles and a herding certification. She's the first dog that I trained with no corrections (at least for the first couple of years - not even "no"). It's amazing at how much she bonded to me and how much she trusts me. I truly believe that a lot of the response we want to get from dogs is received through a strong fair leadership and a trust and respect on the part of the dog. Trick never wore a corrective collar for training or had pops on the leash. She grew up trusting me to treat her with respect just as I expect her to respect me. I think that's so important.

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Old 08-08-2006, 02:26 AM
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CONGRATS!!!
that's so awesome!!!
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Old 08-08-2006, 10:47 AM
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Good to hear from you!

And doubly good to hear the reason you've abandoned us is so that your girls can burn up the show ring!
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Old 08-08-2006, 02:42 PM
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BIG HUGE CONGRATULATIONS!!!

I bet you're thrilled! What great dogs. Hey the peeing.....don't worry about it. Nobody's perfect. She sounds adorable and doing such a good job.

You deserve to be proud!
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Old 08-08-2006, 04:47 PM
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Thanks, everyone! I did have a great weekend and even came back with a bit more tan .. *L*

Zoom .. I haven't abandoned you, just been SO darn busy! That's pretty normal here in the summers. I work for a fishing lodge and it's salmon season! And now I'm having to move (been in this house eight years) by September 1st so my posts may be few and far between. But I do make time to get out and take my girls places!

Doberluv .. I can laugh about it now but I did feel bad for the other dogs coming into the ring. The rest of the advanced A dogs had to come in after her, and then all the novice dogs. At least they're on leash! But she wasn't the only one to pee in the ring (and certainly not the first that weekend!) so all the smells were not her fault.

I brought Khana home and she promptly went into heat, so I'm wondering now if that wasn't part of her problem too. Maybe that makes her need to urinate more frequently? Who knows .. *L* .. she looked a bit swollen at the show but I checked her several times and she had no discharge or blood. The male chows in our little section were not overly interested in her either, so I figured we had some time (she was due first of September).

I've never noticed a behavior change in her during her heat cycles, but I'm sure it causes some other physical changes and the urination may be part of it.

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Old 08-08-2006, 06:48 PM
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I've never noticed a behavior change in her during her heat cycles, but I'm sure it causes some other physical changes and the urination may be part of it.
I would guess that it does because the lining of the uterus is swollen and pressure may be on the bladder. And the hormonal changes in themselves can trigger the urge to urinate. (at least, that's how it is with humans and I think dogs have similar physiology in many ways)
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Old 08-08-2006, 06:54 PM
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Sounds like you had a good show overall!!! GOOD job!!
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