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Old 03-17-2006, 05:23 PM
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How important are they to you? While looking back over pedigrees, I am shocked to discover that most breeders don't seem to know where their dogs came from, most have a 4-5 gen pedigree and thats it, i like to know where my dogs came from, but it doesn't seem to bother some, surely this is most important when breeding? What do you think? Is it important to you?
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Old 03-17-2006, 05:26 PM
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It's extremely important.

In order to accomplish anything, you have to know what is behind your dogs.

For me, a 4 to 5 generation pedigree is usually enough as I am familiar with most of the dogs further back than that.
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Old 03-17-2006, 05:35 PM
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I think it is important.IF you want to know what potential your dog has. And the background is of great importance to you for reason. I say this only because many people do not rescue due to the dog not having a pedigree, so in that case, no.I have a pedigree that reaches to floor for my dog! But I hear 5 year matters to people.

So, yeah, I beleive it is important
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Old 03-17-2006, 05:53 PM
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What about line breeding don't you need a extended pedigree for this? I was looking into a pedigree and got stuck on a dog, so i did a search and only came up with one dog with it at the end of its pedigree, so i emailed them and asked if they knew its sire/ dam and colour they didn't have a clue and this has happened more than once, i love to be able to trace my dog back years so why don't they?
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Old 03-17-2006, 06:32 PM
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I can trace my dogs pedigree's back to 1868 with the first mating I suppose I'm lucky I have a relatively young breed, and through showing I have met a lot of people who owned ancestors of my dogs who are ore than happy to tell you about their passed dogs
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Old 03-17-2006, 09:49 PM
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I can trace my lines back to the early "30s.... At least by kennel names. When breeding I was always interested in tracing . I always provided new owners with good records.
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Old 03-18-2006, 09:07 AM
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Gallien, to some extent it's dependent on your knowledge of your breed as to whether you have to have an extended pedigree to linebreed.

For example, in the breeding I am planning, I was looking to linebreed on a certain dog in Penny's pedigree.

I am very familiar with what is behind this dog, so I don't need to do deep pedigree research going back 8 or 10 generations. When you go that far back in pedigrees, they get very cumbersome and huge.

I find if I have 5 or at times 6 gens to look at, that is plenty for me.

Unless you are doing a "family" type breeding that has numerous lines to a dog further back in the pedigree, I find I am usually working with a researching 3 to 4 generations.

In my breed you can do a LOT of pedigree research at http://www.pawvillage.com
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Old 03-18-2006, 11:51 AM
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I think it is important and I have the same problem. The so called breeders I got my pup from are failing to giv me his parents names and colours and his granparents names and colours--let alone 5 generations back! Its so ridiculous. I only want to know to put my mind at rest, plus its for part of my college project. I have posted a topic about this in general dog chat.
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Old 03-19-2006, 05:47 AM
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Pedigrees are hugely important when you are breeding, I'm doing some research at the moment for a mating I am planning for 2007, going back through the pedigree and checking not only the dogs named on the pedigree, but also the siblings of these dogs and bitches, to see if anything untowards has cropped up.or in fact if a sibling to a "Star" upline is a better producer with healthier progeny. its hard work, but when you only breed occasionally, I feel you must try to make the right decision, you can only do that by researching pedigrees.

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Old 03-19-2006, 10:40 AM
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Pedigrees are hugely important when you are breeding, I'm doing some research at the moment for a mating I am planning for 2007, going back through the pedigree and checking not only the dogs named on the pedigree, but also the siblings of these dogs and bitches, to see if anything untowards has cropped up.or in fact if a sibling to a "Star" upline is a better producer with healthier progeny. its hard work, but when you only breed occasionally, I feel you must try to make the right decision, you can only do that by researching pedigrees.

Mo
Yep the ones I have collected, I have added colours and health testing results, aosl on another page I have pics and some show results, old books are a great help when looking into a pedigree
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