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Old 02-10-2014, 12:12 PM
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Oh that makes me so furious!

I don't know if this is a very good letter or even very accurate with information. But I scrambled this out just now and emailed it. Tell me what you think. It's really too long, but that's typical of me. Uggg.

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I am writing to you in response to your slam against purebred dogs, using the term “hoity toity.” The canine “pageant” to which you mockingly refer, is not just a beauty pageant. Conformation shows are for a purpose. I’ll explain: Purebred dogs were developed for many, many years and selectively bred so that these various purebreds would all come out fairly uniformly and be patterned to excel in specialized work. For example: A German Shepherd Dog was bred to herd sheep and protect them. There are many herding breeds that are good at various types of herding. There are livestock guardian breeds, such as the Great Pyrenees that was designed to blend in with sheep and guard against wolf attacks. There are hunting dogs of various types, some better at going into very cold water to retrieve ducks, some better at upland hunting. There are hounds, good at what they do which is rather independent of their owner…they don’t work closely with their owner but can tree animals without instruction from their owner. There are terriers that get rid of disease causing vermin.


Now, before breeding any dog, certain criteria should be met. Health, including genetic health testing, striving to eliminate genetic maladies which compromise the health of dogs, temperament testing, conformation should be very important because without correct build, health problems can result.


Who is to decide which dogs are worthy of being bred, which dogs will keep to a breed standard, which outlines what conformation they should have as well as what kind of temperament is conducive to this particular breed and the job it does? That’s where these shows come in and judges experienced with the breeds rate dogs as far as adhering to the breed’s written standard. Only the best should be bred so we can keep all these pure breeds uniform and able to do the jobs they were bred to do. That is the point of conformation showing. There are enough purebred dogs to suit anyone’s needs or wants. So, haphazard breeding should be eliminated and only the reputable breeders who know the science behind good breeding should take on this task.


There’s not a thing wrong with mixed breed dogs per say, unless someone wants some specific, specialized traits to suit his life style. He may not find that in a mixed breed or it could be a lot of guess work. Mixed breed dogs appeal to many. I’ve had some myself. My son has a lovely mixed breed dog. But if all that were allowed to exist were mixed breeds, we’d lose all the wonderful purebred dogs we have and mixed breed dogs would keep breeding (or we’d lose all dogs) and eventually, there’d be only one kind of dog…a melting pot of all and specialized temperaments, physical ability for various skills would be lost. Mixed breed dogs are not typically bred by reputable breeders and health testing is not done. It is a myth that mixed breeds are healthier than purebreds. They can still have these genetic maladies since they derived from purebreds somewhere back there. People breed these designer breeds which are mixed breeds, not a pure breed and you see often times very poor temperaments. And there are irresponsible breeders who do the same with purebred dogs. Not every breeder is a reputable and responsible breeder who knows what they're doing. Don’t clump lousy breeders with responsible breeders striving to improve and maintain quality purebred dogs.


Not being an expert with the science of this, I can not say what all the implications could be if people were to outlaw reputable purebred dog breeders and your “hoity toity” dog shows. But I know one thing. It could be disastrous.


This kind of uninformed, ignorant blasting of something you know nothing about is, this misinformation thrown out at the public is incredibly irresponsible and damaging. I hope you make some kind of retraction.
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Old 02-10-2014, 12:24 PM
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If these morons even knew what went into the beginnings of creating a Border Collie to cut off their sequence of predatory motor patterns so that they could orient, stalk, chase, and then not kill. (which would have happened before evolution changed wolves into dogs) So, besides probable natural changes, human selection has brought about breeds that are highly specialized in what they do. WTF is wrong with these idiots who think a melting pot of whatever is left after they get through interfering is going to be any good for anything? I think if there ever is a law to stop reputable purebred breeding, good breeders and supporters are just going to have to ignore it. It's just outrageous! Of course, those in power are taking away our rights in every corner.
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Old 02-14-2014, 06:35 PM
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If these morons even knew what went into the beginnings of creating a Border Collie to cut off their sequence of predatory motor patterns so that they could orient, stalk, chase, and then not kill. (which would have happened before evolution changed wolves into dogs) So, besides probable natural changes, human selection has brought about breeds that are highly specialized in what they do. WTF is wrong with these idiots who think a melting pot of whatever is left after they get through interfering is going to be any good for anything? I think if there ever is a law to stop reputable purebred breeding, good breeders and supporters are just going to have to ignore it. It's just outrageous! Of course, those in power are taking away our rights in every corner.
Yeah ... And where to they think the MUTTS they love so much come from? GASP ... PURE BRED's ... Oh the horror. xD
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Old 02-14-2014, 08:37 PM
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Yeah ... And where to they think the MUTTS they love so much come from? GASP ... PURE BRED's ... Oh the horror. xD
Wait no haven't you heard? It's the OPPOSITE!
All purebreds are actually mutts because they were created by mutts.

...I really hate when people use that argument when I speak against breeding "designer" dogs.
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Old 02-14-2014, 08:54 PM
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Wait no haven't you heard? It's the OPPOSITE!
All purebreds are actually mutts because they were created by mutts.

...I really hate when people use that argument when I speak against breeding "designer" dogs.
Lol but ... But ... "Designer dogs" are "hybrids"
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Old 02-14-2014, 09:13 PM
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Thus are far superior due to hybrid vigor! My English Mastweiller and Yorkipoo have it! (I puked a little in my mouth typing that)
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Old 02-14-2014, 09:19 PM
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Well it's always nice when a perceived attack isn't met with return attacks. :|
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Old 02-14-2014, 09:33 PM
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Thus are far superior due to hybrid vigor! My English Mastweiller and Yorkipoo have it! (I puked a little in my mouth typing that)
Lol hey don't say "Mastweiller" too loudly or before you know it you will start seeing "Mastweiller" adds on CL and in newspapers everywhere
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Honestly, as long as the parents are health tested, have stable temperaments, and the breeders screen potential homes and will take back pups later in life I have no issue with "designer" dogs. The majority of "designer" dog breeders don't do that of course, but the majority of purebred breeders don't either. That may not be the case with more rare breeds, but with popular breeds like labs and goldens there are TONS of irresponsible breeders.
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Honestly, as long as the parents are health tested, have stable temperaments, and the breeders screen potential homes and will take back pups later in life I have no issue with "designer" dogs. The majority of "designer" dog breeders don't do that of course, but the majority of purebred breeders don't either. That may not be the case with more rare breeds, but with popular breeds like labs and goldens there are TONS of irresponsible breeders.
Yep, I used to be hardcore "breeding mixes is ALWAYS irresponsible" but now as long as there's health testing and some sort of goal, which for me includes solid family temperaments, then I'm fine with it. I prefer purebreds with the exception of the rare sport mix (oh, borderwhippets) and would prefer to see them trying to develop a new breed rather than just constantly producing F1 crosses, but you know what? As long as health & temperament are paramount, the breeder stands behind the dogs and the pups all have homes... it's all fine by me.
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