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Old 01-26-2014, 08:47 PM
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The fact that CostCo does not have a plan in place for children bothered me and it has nothing to do with Maggie. Geeze.
Just because they didn't know what an Adam alert was (which is another store entirely's code), it doesn't mean they don't have a plan in place. Heck, just because they didn't tell you they have a code in place doesn't mean they don't have a code in place - it's not something they're going to tell every random member of the public about.

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Since they don't have the capability to announce something over a loud speaker,
I suspect they do have the capability. In fact, I'd be astonished in this day and age if they didn't. Perhaps they just elected not to make this announcement for you, for whatever reason.
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Old 01-26-2014, 08:48 PM
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But you're disabled (I'm sorry.. that sounds SO rude& I don't mean it rudely, I'm just not sure how else to phrase it) under ADA& it's confirmed by a doctor, correct?

Or else I could just say I have anxiety, train Penn to snuggle me& take her everywhere& no one would be able to say anything because I don't need to have any sort of conformation from a doctor ..which seems really wrong?
Remember that they are answering as people in the US. It's completely different in Canada (and you're more on track for Canada iirc)
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Old 01-26-2014, 08:52 PM
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Yes I meant by way of a doctor's note, I am sorry for using the term "certified", I had a brain burp and forgot that it was a loaded word in regards to SD's I myself would be ok with getting her recognized (is that a more appropriate way to say it?) as an ESA if she proves unfit to be a full SD.

I just want to go about this the right way but this my first journey doing this and I am a little embarrassed about it I have gotten every reaction from people who know me well being happy for me to others being all "so that means you're crazy, right?" Or "why do you need an SD you aren't physically disabled!" :/
Yes, "recognized" or "declared" is much better.
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Old 01-26-2014, 09:03 PM
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Yes, "recognized" or "declared" is much better.
Yes I will remind myself to be careful of the words I choose pertaining to this subject
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Old 01-26-2014, 10:14 PM
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But you're disabled (I'm sorry.. that sounds SO rude& I don't mean it rudely, I'm just not sure how else to phrase it) under ADA& it's confirmed by a doctor, correct?

Or else I could just say I have anxiety, train Penn to snuggle me& take her everywhere& no one would be able to say anything because I don't need to have any sort of conformation from a doctor ..which seems really wrong?
I have had a doctor say I'm disabled (I had a note for Gavorche when I had him in no-pets housing as an ESA, and it states I'm disabled in that letter) but the only way to GUARANTEE you're disabled is to have a judge say so...and that's something nobody ever wants to be in the position to have to do. So a doctor agreeing you're disabled is the best you can get, but it's not required, either. What's required is that you are disabled, regardless of who says you are or are not.

Snuggling is not a task. Snuggling is for ESAs. Every place is allowed to ask if the dog is a service dog and what tasks it is trained to do.

It IS easy to fake a service dog, and that's why there is such a problem with fakers. I think eventually, there will be certification, and we'll have fakers to "thank" for it.
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Old 01-27-2014, 04:36 AM
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In that case, with people so hating fakers (for obvious reasons. No one likes when people abuse a system) ..would certification be such a bad thing? It could be simple enough- get doctor approval, get dog, train it to mitigate symptoms, submit a claim& be certified! Then fakers wouldn't be the headache they are for you guys& I'm not sure I see the hassle. Especially if part of the law was that it just had to be displayed on your dog at all time ..so it wouldn't even slow you down as far as showing ID. It could be a patch on a vest or hang from the collar.

And I was kidding about snuggling. But she DOES open/ close doors& turn lights on& off. I just mean it seems so easy to fake it that I am amazed by it! I had no idea you didn't require physician diagnosis to have an SD ..also amazed a judge is the one qualified to determine if your disability is legal or not!
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Old 01-27-2014, 08:40 AM
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Who is going to decide on the requirements for certification, and what happens to you if, as a disabled person, you and your dog are suddenly excluded from those requirements because whoever came up with the list didn't think to include you?
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Old 01-27-2014, 09:20 AM
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nothing inherently wrong with fakers, provided the dogs are well behaved. who cares? if the dog isnt hurting anyone, scaring anyone, or shitting in the aisleway, WHO CARES?! attitude and nastiness and the cry for tighter and tighter regulations, THATS what hurting legitimate SD teams, NOT fakers. and if someone has a dangerous dog, fake or legit, they need to be held accountable for the dogs behavior. this has nothing to do with disabilities.
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So in Canada do you basically need a prescription from a doctor for a service dog? I'm reading between the lines a bit here.
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nothing inherently wrong with fakers, provided the dogs are well behaved. who cares? if the dog isnt hurting anyone, scaring anyone, or shitting in the aisleway, WHO CARES?! attitude and nastiness and the cry for tighter and tighter regulations, THATS what hurting legitimate SD teams, NOT fakers. and if someone has a dangerous dog, fake or legit, they need to be held accountable for the dogs behavior. this has nothing to do with disabilities.
Except they're breaking the law and could make it more difficult for real service dog handlers.
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