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Old 12-30-2013, 09:11 AM
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Old 12-30-2013, 09:13 AM
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Frostfell, in all seriousness with no sarcasm whatsoever... can you not see how the statements "I love this breed, I'm not going to destroy something I care about" and "there's nothing that would be dealbreaker" [for breeding, on a dog that hasn't had any health testing yet] are contradictory?

I'm curious, what is it that you love about this breed? And what do you see as "improving" the breed?

You certainly don't need anyone's permission to breed, but really did you think no one would have anything to say about it, given the culture of this board?
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Old 12-30-2013, 09:19 AM
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If she's a great dog and has zero things that could possibly pop up that would be a deal breaker why are you spaying after only one litter?

The only hostility I really see is coming from you, swearing at people, telling them to STFU and calling everybody who is questioning your breeding "assholes." Go find the thread where people were asking SaraB and Linds questions about their potential breeding plans with the koolies and contrast how differently they responded to people being blunt and questioning their plans. Your responses are really quite revealing.
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Old 12-30-2013, 09:35 AM
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If you can't even afford soap, obviously this poor litter is doomed from the start.

I've read your replies to the venting thread, and it sounds like you're one foot out the door towards being homeless. Obviously you're "not made of money" so health testing isn't important to you (yet you're selling the puppies for $2000 a piece? What?!), but food IS a necessity for both your pregnant bitch and litter.

If you can't even afford basic personal hygiene items, I'd re-evaluate getting into dog breeding. What if your bitch needs a c-section? What if she has complications?

I'm not even touching on how unethical your breeding plans are.

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Old 12-30-2013, 09:41 AM
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Wow... Frostfell... The internetz does not like you... Google is not your friend!! what a tangled web.....

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Go find the thread where people were asking SaraB and Linds questions about their potential breeding plans with the koolies and contrast how differently they responded to people being blunt and questioning their plans. Your responses are really quite revealing.
Out of curiosity, did Linds and SaraB start those threads? Just cause I'm gonna go looking for it.
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Frost no one is putting words in your mouth. We are simply going by what YOU wrote on YOUR website.

You say you health tested. Ok. Where is it listed?

This is chazhound. If you post anything about a breeding be prepared to back it up.
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Out of curiosity, did Linds and SaraB start those threads? Just cause I'm gonna go looking for it.
This is at least one where things were questioned, but I'm pretty sure there was another that focused on their program plans.

http://www.chazhound.com/forums/showthread.php?t=214109

Hope that helps.
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Old 12-30-2013, 01:19 PM
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to everyone else, cut the hostility and sarcasm. i dont ****ing need your approval for my breeding, and i didnt ask for, nor am i saying or doing any of the things you are claiming im saying.
I think people are saying that you're intending on breeding a young, unproven dog prior to any health testing for inheritable disease and the like, and you're planning on charging puppy buyers $2000 for the pleasure (less the puppies which you will be donating, of course).

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if thats the way you want to go about it, lumping everyone under the same blanket statements, putting words in my mouth, then **** off. pretty sure that giving 3 puppies away for free, spaying after 1 breeding, and doing health testing already shows im not in it for "TEH MONIEZZ" like you think. just stop
What health testing are you planning on doing, specifically? What has been done, specifically?

There are plenty of bad breeders out there who breed for reasons other than money. Like, for instance, ego or ignorance.

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i love my dogs, i love these breed, im not going to destroy something i care about even if you assholes think its not worth caring about. so **** off.
I also can't imagine taking a functional dog like an APBT and turning into a lumbering brute which is handicapped by its own anatomy is breeding for the love of the dogs. But that's just me.
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oh boy, this reminds me of a saying. Something about being in a hole and to quit digging.
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