Dog Site - Dog Stuff
Dog Forum | Dog Pictures

Go Back   Chazhound Dog Forum > Dog Discussions and Dog Talk Forums > Dog Training Forum


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #41  
Old 12-27-2013, 03:10 PM
Airn's Avatar
Airn Airn is offline
Top Dog
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Bentonville, AR
Posts: 1,001
Default

Not recent but Gwen can perch! She sleeps on the back of the couch often.

Im not sure what I'll train her. I have an idea but it could be dangerous so... not sure. I couldn't do a footstall. Maybe I'll find a bucket.

How long are you spending on training? I don't want to overdo it.
Reply With Quote
  #42  
Old 12-27-2013, 03:49 PM
Laurelin's Avatar
Laurelin Laurelin is offline
I'm All Ears
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 29,765
Default

I got inspired and decided to do some work with the girls today. We're at baby steps right now, lol.

Mia:

I got her perching on objects much shorter length-wise than her. It took no time at all because we've done a lot of work getting her in smaller and smaller boxes with all 4 feet so this was a piece of cake.

I did get her on a wobbly surface and she is doing great! Very confident about it.

The issue we're having was when I tried to get her to start perching on ME. I put my legs up on the top of the box to get her to just get used to standing on me. End goal would probably be perching on my knees since a foot stall would be too tall for her. She keeps jumping over me and I know a lot of that is from training her to jump over my arms and legs if I hold them out. How do you guys begin the transition from perch on an object to perch on you?

Summer:

Oh boy. Apparently I've never worked on getting all 4 of Summer's feet on an object. She keeps pivoting on it with her front feet or backing up to it or jumping over it. I cannot get her to keep all four on it and when she does (her object is Summer length), it doesn't click and she's back to pivoting or something. My favorite thing she was doing was putting her front feet on it then banging her feet into it. I may just teach her to play the drums or something.

Summer can be smart but sometimes things confuse her, lol.
__________________
Mia CGC - (5 year old Papillon)
Hank - (approx. 10 month old Spotty Dog)
Summer TG3 TIAD - (10 year old Papillon)
Reply With Quote
  #43  
Old 12-27-2013, 04:04 PM
AdrianneIsabel's Avatar
AdrianneIsabel AdrianneIsabel is offline
Glutton for Crazy
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Portland, Oregon
Posts: 8,893
Default

I spend maybe 2 minutes at a time on this stuff, once a day, with a few days off a week, right now.
__________________
Sloan von Krigbaum IPO1 CGC BH CD NA NJ PD MJ-N RATI RATN 3/7/10 -
Shamoo NJ-N RATI RATN 3/1/98 -
Phelan du Loups du Soleil CGC RATI 6/15/13 -
Chili Brigades Brover 5/23/14 -

Arnold CGC TDI FD 6/29/04 - 07/05/13
Backup CGC HIC CD SRD SJ-N RATI 12/29/09 - 07/05/13

You were amazing, we did amazing things.


Harmony Canine, relationship based training.
Reply With Quote
  #44  
Old 12-27-2013, 06:22 PM
Sekah's Avatar
Sekah Sekah is offline
The Monster.
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Toronto
Posts: 1,245
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Laurelin View Post
How do you guys begin the transition from perch on an object to perch on you?
The quickest, easiest method is have the perch object nearby. Do some rapid fire rehearsals of the behaviour on an object, then move straight to asking for it on you. Move to/from rehearsing on the object as needed during the session.

E: It's hard to say how long/often I work on something since I tend to have quite a few things on the go, and my interest in working on something specific will wax & wane. When I'm making a concerted effort to work on something I probably focus on it pretty intently about 10-15 minutes a day. I tend to over-train though, and most dogs would do just fine with <5 minutes/day.
__________________

Cheynat's O' Lady Midnight CD RE ADC SGDC FDCh-S CGN HIC, Esq.
Megatron, Heat Vampire
Ci Da: Good Dog
Reply With Quote
  #45  
Old 12-27-2013, 08:15 PM
Oko's Avatar
Oko Oko is offline
Silence, peasants.
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: MA, USA
Posts: 2,045
Default

For trick of the week we probably spend 20 minutes in all training it, broken into a couple minutes. It's hard to say because I throw all the training in with just playing and don't plan, ha.

And I have to say this is a hilarious trick to train Feist in. The bucket is kind of small so she has to really work to balance and get a hind leg onto it, this last session we did she started consistently offering three legs on and was trying to get the fourth. This is nice because it's a trick that actually taxes her brain.

And I love looking at everyone else's perches they're awesome!!
__________________


Feist - 1 y/o Border Collie
Wesley - 3 y/o nephew derpoodle
Cleo - 13 y/o 'family dog' mini poodle
Reply With Quote
  #46  
Old 12-27-2013, 08:19 PM
Linds's Avatar
Linds Linds is offline
Twin 2
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Illinois
Posts: 6,900
Default

Cause shoes are stupid.



AKA: Forgot I'm not wearing shoes and love that my dogs land so lightly on their feet that it didn't matter.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Laurelin View Post
How do you guys begin the transition from perch on an object to perch on you?
I work on the idea of "ON" being solid. They get told a lot to "UpUp" which means get onto something that I gesture to. They also know over means jump over something. So honestly I have very little difficulty after doing all that in getting them to use me as a perch.

Sekah's idea is very similar to how I teach stuff like this too.

For footstall stuff I had them on a stool so they were also already in the mind frame of "Getting on things" But even then I shaped it mostly. They touched my feet with one paw *Click*, two paws *click*, three paws *click* and since they were already elevated they weren't thinking about jumping over anything. I think using small steps and approximations along with absolutely no reward for jumping over you would be your best bet.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Airn View Post

Im not sure what I'll train her. I have an idea but it could be dangerous so... not sure. I couldn't do a footstall. Maybe I'll find a bucket.

How long are you spending on training? I don't want to overdo it.
If you're just starting out with that type of stuff I would start small and not be looking at something like a footstall until she has better balance and core strength.

I typically do it for a couple repetitions a few times a day. So when I was just starting off I would have them do it two or three times for various lengths two or three times a day. Though that's after they get it. When I'm still shaping it the sessions are about five minutes long.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #47  
Old 12-27-2013, 11:41 PM
Oko's Avatar
Oko Oko is offline
Silence, peasants.
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: MA, USA
Posts: 2,045
Default

Here is Feist's 2nd session of perching on a bucket.

__________________


Feist - 1 y/o Border Collie
Wesley - 3 y/o nephew derpoodle
Cleo - 13 y/o 'family dog' mini poodle
Reply With Quote
  #48  
Old 12-28-2013, 08:26 AM
Shai's Avatar
Shai Shai is offline
& the Muttly Crew
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 6,100
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Linds View Post
I work on the idea of "ON" being solid. They get told a lot to "UpUp" which means get onto something that I gesture to.
Pretty much the same here. The dogs all know "Up" means "climb up on _____" because I use it all the time so I just laid down in a room with nothing climbable, patted my shins and said "Up" and Webby scrambled up on, haha.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Linds
If you're just starting out with that type of stuff I would start small and not be looking at something like a footstall until she has better balance and core strength.
I'll second this too. Fitpaws is super for building the requisite body control and awareness, btw.
__________________

ARCHX U-CD Kim MX MXJ NF CL3-SF RL3/2X/1X-COE CGC -- Golden Ditzhund, b. ~Mar'07
MACH ARCHX U-CD Webster MXB MJB RL3/2X/1X-COE CGC -- Flying Houdini, b. ~Jun'07
Mira CD JH MX MXB MXJ MJB CGC WCX -- Princess Cheeseface, b. Jul'09
Lodin -- Crazy Monkeybean, b. Dec'13
Reply With Quote
  #49  
Old 12-28-2013, 02:32 PM
RottenFlower's Avatar
RottenFlower RottenFlower is offline
rotties are my kryptonite
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: More north of south, but more south of north.
Posts: 152
Default

Aheheh StiXxX learns to perch (sorta).

__________________
JBG's It's Clobberin' Time, CGC|TDInc|RN
"Clyde"
4/2006-12/26/2012
my delicate little flower

Reply With Quote
  #50  
Old 12-28-2013, 04:45 PM
sassafras's Avatar
sassafras sassafras is offline
such sights to show you
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 5,921
Default

Proportionally, he's doing the exact same thing as everyone else!!
__________________

Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:39 PM.


1997-2013 Chazhound Dog Site