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Old 01-10-2006, 09:06 PM
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I tried a search on Medicam and found nothing. How do y'all feel about it? What are personal experiences? I've so far only heard positive with the caveat that it is hard on liver and kidneys.
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Old 01-10-2006, 09:15 PM
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do you mean metacam, the NSAID?
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Old 01-10-2006, 10:05 PM
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I would assume it is Metakill...I mean Metacam

I myself am not a fan of Metacam for the damage it does to the liver. Also, I have seen many dogs do further damage to the injured areas. The only time I would use it is if my dog had no other hope and I just wanted to keep him pain free.

There are many natural anti-inflammatories out there that I could recommend if your interested. I have 3 dogs that I am keeping in tip top shape with natural herbal support. My Rottie has Hip Dysplasia, My male Newf has Elbow Dysplasia and my old Newf (she'll be 11 years old in a couple of months!!!) she had torn a cruciate ligament years ago, and had a partial tear on the other leg just within the past year. She is all healed without the help of Metacam
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Old 01-10-2006, 10:29 PM
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do you mean metacam, the NSAID?
Probably why my search brought up a big egg.

Athebeau, she's a 11.5 year old chessepeake/lab cross that has fairly advanced arthritis. She get's approx. one mile walk and then a half hour wander where she wants. She's usually sore before and after but increased activity doesn't seem to make her any worse. She gets bufferin occasionally and glucosamine sulphate. She's been like this for two years and the liver thing is why I never considered it before but I'm starting to think that she's nearing the end of her time and I could give her maybe a bit more of an active life for the remaining year or so?
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Old 01-11-2006, 12:15 AM
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I can understand your wanting to ease her aches after a walk. You may want to monitor her and see how much she can do and how she feels afterward. If you feel that she needs that something extra so she can live her life the way you feel she should then by all means I don't see harm in it at her age. Just don't over do it, I have seen some dogs that feel great on Metacam do more damage as they over exert themselves on their walk.

For all my dogs I have them on Nutri Aid which is Glucosamine, Chondroitin & MSM Complex...it also has Vitamin C and Mineral Manganese. I give the proper amount per weight daily. I've also started giving my dogs Turmeric and Ginger as anti-inflammatories...so far so good. Try to get more Omega 3 fatty acids into your dogs diet, canned sardines, canned wild salmon, flax oil, crushed flax seeds. I also started adding coQ10 to my older Newf's diet.

Keep in mind that older dogs have about a 30% reduction in the functioning of organs. Of course your vet will do a CBC blood test before putting on Metacam and you will be required every so often to get blood work to see how the liver is doing.
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Old 01-11-2006, 12:19 AM
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TroyF, google adequan and read up on it. it might be an option for your dog.

a friend of mine has two dogs with elbow dysplasia (both had surgery) and associated pain and she said it really worked wonders, especially for her older dog, a bulldog mix who is now about 9 1/2 years old.
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Old 01-11-2006, 01:43 AM
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Thanks to you both for your suggestions. Lots to read.

Athebeau, in regards to the monitoring exercise; she's fubared after anything more than the walk I mentioned thus the Bufferin. Occasionally I've over done it with her and it doesn't take much.
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TroyF,
I know what you mean, My 10 1/2 Year old Newfoundland there have been times when we have over done it with her (weekend warriar). She "wants' to run and play with the other dogs and sometimes doesn't realize that she is over doing it. I found that acupuncture helped her, we moderate her exercise as she really will act like a puppy and go crazy when out for a walk.

For my Newf with Elbow Dysplasia we are going to start acupuncture with him. He seems to be doing very well, but, we also have to be consistant with his exercise...one day of over doing it can make him uncomfortable. We keep his weight at a healthy zone and he is doing very well.

With my Rottweiler Athena with Hip Dysplasia I am starting acupuncture tomorrow, I really believe the supplements have helped her all these years...she even shocks the vets at how well she is doing with her degree of HD.

You could also try accupressure at home, basically a massage with a little pressure on some key points. I wish I could send you a diagram of all the key pressure points.

Adequan is great as Mordy mentioned you can also get the vet to inject Adequan-R. I've tried it, but, I find my dogs do better on the Nutri Aid GCM.

If you do decide to go with Metacam for those days when your dog really needs it...make sure you give Milk Thistle to protect the liver. Discuss this with your Vet and ask when to give the Milk Thistle...most Vets are becoming aware of the value of Milk Thistle when a dog is on a medicine that is harmful to the liver.
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Great info! Thanks.
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