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Old 09-10-2013, 10:33 AM
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My partner and I recently brought home a new pup. She's an 8 week old lab and we've had her for one week now.

She seems to have settled in great, but there's just one problem: She cries a lot at night.

The pup sleeps downstairs in her crate and I, for the past week, have been sleeping on the sofa because of her crying. I let her out to do her business twice per night, but in between that, she still cries to come out of her crate.

I was wondering if this is normal? If so, when will it stop? And if not, how can I stop her from crying so much? I obviously don't want to keep sleeping on the sofa!

Any advice or tips would be greatly appreciated.

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Old 09-10-2013, 11:23 AM
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The puppy is crying because she misses her mom/littermates. She's always had someone to snuggle with until now.
Most times when we've had a new puppy we get something to put the puppy in (a cardboard box works well) . Put the box with the puppy in it beside your bed and pet the puppy occasionally, reassuring her that you're still around. When she falls asleep remove your hand. It also helps to play/exercise the puppy to get her sleepy before bed. And it doesn't hurt to put a towel or stuffed toy in with her also.

Or .......you could just let her sleep with you
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Old 09-10-2013, 12:18 PM
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The puppy is crying because she misses her mom/littermates. She's always had someone to snuggle with until now.
Most times when we've had a new puppy we get something to put the puppy in (a cardboard box works well) . Put the box with the puppy in it beside your bed and pet the puppy occasionally, reassuring her that you're still around. When she falls asleep remove your hand. It also helps to play/exercise the puppy to get her sleepy before bed. And it doesn't hurt to put a towel or stuffed toy in with her also.

Or .......you could just let her sleep with you
Sounds like it could work. Do you think it will be too confusing for her to move from downstairs in her crate (which she quite willingly goes into to sleep) to upstairs into a box?
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Old 09-10-2013, 12:30 PM
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Sounds like it could work. Do you think it will be too confusing for her to move from downstairs in her crate (which she quite willingly goes into to sleep) to upstairs into a box?
Could you put her crate near your bed? Crate covers also work too. If you have a crate I don't see why you would want to put her in a box.
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Old 09-10-2013, 12:34 PM
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It wouldn't have to be a box, we didn't have a crate at the time.
You could put her crate in your room and just try talking to her soothingly.
If she knows you're there with her sometimes that's all that matters.
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Old 09-10-2013, 01:00 PM
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The thing is, she's not sleeping downstairs alone - I'm there with her. The sofa is two feet away, and when she does cry I have tried putting my fingers through the crate to stroke her and it calms her down but only for a moment or two.

I have, on occasion, given into her cries and let her out thinking she might need the toilet again, but she just plays.
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Old 09-10-2013, 01:01 PM
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The thing is, she's not sleeping downstairs alone - I'm there with her. The sofa is two feet away, and when she does cry I have tried putting my fingers through the crate to stroke her and it calms her down but only for a moment or two.

I have, on occasion, given into her cries and let her out thinking she might need the toilet again, but she just plays.
Don't give into the whining. Giving attention or letting her out when she whines, just reinforces the whining.
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Old 09-10-2013, 01:28 PM
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Don't give into the whining. Giving attention or letting her out when she whines, just reinforces the whining.
Yeah, I agree. It's just sometimes difficult to differentiate between a cry to go toilet and a cry for attention. Also, her crying sessions last half hour at a time. Just looking forward to overcoming this stage in her puppyhood.

Also, when she's come in from relieving herself outside, she likes to play. Should I be entertaining this behaviour at all, or should I simply put her back into her crate?
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Old 09-10-2013, 01:57 PM
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I've always put the crate next to the bed. Sometimes I sleep on the floor next to it for the first couple nights. I do restrict water after 7-8 pm and by 9 weeks they're only out once per night.

Always on leash and they get a minute to go, if they look like they want to play around, they don't have to go that bad and back in the crate they go. If they do go, they always get extra time to play and sniff, even in the middle of the night. After a couple weeks, they know "go potty" means GO now.

I completely ignore crying. If I think there's a chance they might be crying to go out, after eating/drinking, been a while, etc, I'll take them out when they're crying, but I pick them up, leash them, carry outside and set them down and they get about a minute to find a place to go, if they don't I calmly pick them back up and back in the crate they go, we'll try again in 10 minutes or so. If they go, rewards and play time and come back in the house for more rewards and hang out time.

There is no interaction when i'm taking them out at this point, it's rather removed so they're is nothing to desire in it for them. At first they might think, oh yeah, this is great i get out, but they learn quickly enough that they aren't getting anything.

By the same token, when they're laying there being good, I randomly will drop in a treat or two and calmly tell them they're good. Screamin and I leave the room (day time of course) I've never had to at night. They usually have alway settled rather quickly when bed time comes around.

Screaming gets nothing fun ever. i've never had issues for more than a couple nights.
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Old 09-22-2013, 03:57 PM
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I am by no means an expert. My first puppy is just 13 months old now. However, this is what I do know which might help.

Dogs like to sleep with their people. My dogs always sleep in the bedroom with us, so Kili always had a crate in our bedroom. Now, I did not necessarily ever put it right beside the bed so I could touch her, but if I had thought that would help I certainly would have.

In terms of not knowing if she needs to go out or not... I can sympathize with that one. Kili had recurrent UTIs but it took a couple of weeks after we got her for that to become a consideration. If you're not sure if she needs to go out or not you should take her out. However, you do not want to reinforce the crying. So if possible wait for the slightest break in the crying before getting up and letting her out. Put a leash on her and carry her outside. If she eliminates praise her, give a treat, and take her back inside and put her back in her crate. If she doesn't and just tries to play, pick her up and take her back to her crate. My opinion is that you don't want to set your housetraining back if she might legitimately need to go. On the other hand, you do not want to reinforce her wanting to come out to play, so don't let her play. This is why I think it's really important for the puppy to always go out on a leash to potty.

That's just what I know/learned from having my puppy. Maybe it'll help. Hope you get some sleep soon. We had on and off sleepless nights due to those recurrent UTIs for about 4 months. Then things were good but only because she was kept on antibiotics. Finally she had surgery at 7 months and we've been golden ever since. But I definitely know what that lack of sleep feels like!
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