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Old 09-01-2013, 02:00 PM
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Well, I am not going to keep debating it lol

but my point was the law is irrelevant. I dont care what the law says...
I don't get where you think there is a debate. I wasn't debating with you. I am not trying to change anyone's minds on anything. I was just stating that it doesn't hurt to look up the location you(general you) reside in laws to ensure that you are meeting them. If I hadn't looked it up I would have thought that Nico could go into one as soon as he turned 1 because he is only a few ounces shy now of 20lbs. So I am glad I looked it up. I wasn't agreeing or disagreeing with you. Just stating requirements can and do change so looking them up is never a bad thing.
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Old 09-01-2013, 02:34 PM
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^This. My best friend is a carseat tech and she says the AAP now is recommending kids rearface until AT LEAST 2yo.
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Everyone has to pick what they think is best. I will admit I turned both of mine before two....around 16-18 months I think...but wish I hadnt. I did it because they both HATED the car and screamed pretty much the entire car ride. But I did not research as fully as I should've and well, honestly remained ignorant on the issue.

For those who haven't looked into the issue and would like some more information...here is a good place to start

http://www.cpsafety.com/articles/stayrearfacing.aspx

I hadn't really looked into this yet (cause my kid is 5 months I've got time lol) but wow. After looking through those links we're going to do rear facing for as long as possible. I've heard good things about the Diono Radian as a convertible car seat that doesn't take up a ton of room width wise.

Honestly, I don't really care what the law recommends. I'm going to put way more weight on research and studies than what my state says.
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Old 09-01-2013, 02:43 PM
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...what possibly could be cons to rear-facing? Maybe I'm missing something.
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Old 09-01-2013, 02:45 PM
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Old 09-01-2013, 02:47 PM
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I hadn't really looked into this yet (cause my kid is 5 months I've got time lol) but wow. After looking through those links we're going to do rear facing for as long as possible. I've heard good things about the Diono Radian as a convertible car seat that doesn't take up a ton of room width wise.

Honestly, I don't really care what the law recommends. I'm going to put way more weight on research and studies than what my state says.
There's a car seat tech in my moms group and that's her all time favorite seat.

We have the peg perego piazzo convertible for Everleigh. She can rear face to 45lbs and so far I like it.
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Old 09-01-2013, 03:01 PM
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I'm assuming the cons of forward facing are maybe it's easier to interact with your child or something? Idk.

Their are actually no laws in NYS about when a child can sit up front, either. I'm pretty sure it's legal to put a car seat in the passenger seat. But I'll still make my daughter sit in the back until she's 100 lbs and 5 ft.
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...what possibly could be cons to rear-facing? Maybe I'm missing something.
I was also confused by this.

I had no idea that front facing was such a dangerous situation. I remember, we used to have a commercial about child safety and it recommended using some kind of car seat until the child was 40lbs or 4'9. It was a cute Cinderella themed commercial. Keep your pumpkins safe!

Anyway, those videos were disturbing and I am curious to know the pros of forward facing as well. I thought of it more of a decision based on ignorance for most people, I didn't realize they researched and out-weighed pros and cons of front facing and rear facing.

The videos also make me want to buy a tank when I have a child....
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Old 09-01-2013, 03:31 PM
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Just because someone chooses a different choice them someone else in how they raise their child does not make them ignorant. So please do not get insulting just because I choose differently then what you plan to. There are many reason that go into our decisions. For example those videos show impact of a car slamming into a wall or obstacle from the front and how the child in the seat would react. So what happens when the same happens from the rear with the car in the rear facing posisiton? We have had 3 rear end hits to our vehicle in the past 4yrs. Yet have had nothing that we have hit head on. In my whole life I have never been in a head on collision. Yet I have been in vehicles hit from the side but mainly from the back from people following too close.

So yes for me that is a HUGE pro to turning them around since they are better protected for rear end collisions when facing forward. Another reason is Nico, and all my kids, hate not being able to see what is going on. Another reason is it is easier to interact during our many trips to get his sister, take him to the childrens hospital and so on. There are other reasons as well but the first one for us is the main one. So no it is not from ignorance that we make that decision. It is from experience, research and weighing the pros and cons.

It is a personal choice when a parent makes the decision to switch and there are many things that usually go into that choice. But just because that choice differs from yours does not in any way make it ignorant.
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Old 09-01-2013, 03:36 PM
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I'm not arguing with your decision (it's totally yours to make) but as for the difference between front end and rear collisions, I suspect that when you're rear ended, your car just gets pushed forward, faster. You're already traveling in the direction of which you're being hit, whereas with a front end collision, the impact is much more severe because of your forward momentum. Does that make sense?
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I'm not arguing with your decision (it's totally yours to make) but as for the difference between front end and rear collisions, I suspect that when you're rear ended, your car just gets pushed forward, faster. You're already traveling in the direction of which you're being hit, whereas with a front end collision, the impact is much more severe because of your forward momentum. Does that make sense?
For one of our rear end hits I would agree with you. For the other two no. One we were fully stopped and the person was texting and hit us at the speed they were traveling. So it was not just a push. It was a hard slam that spun our vehicle partial to one side and forward. The other one we had to come to a sudden stop because of another person trying to avoid something. The person traveling behind us was too close and again it was a hard slam. Rear end collisions can cause a lot of damage. Yes at a high rate of speed a head on collision can cause a lot more damage BUT for us neither of us has ever been in one. Where as both of us have dealt with rear end collisions which seems to be way more common. So we see that as more important to protect him from. Hence the biggest pro in our mind for turning him around when he is legally and physically ready for it.

People need to choose for themselves what they feel is best for them and their children. Each person will come to their own conclusion based on the information they have and their experiences. We choose this way. And ignorance had nothing to do with that choice.
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