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Old 07-01-2013, 05:22 PM
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Well. I signed up for beginners agility with Fred. So you will all feel amazing about yourselves soon enough because... Well. Fred + agility will undoubtedly = much swearing and hilarity.

It will be like training a donkey with a brick for a brain. We call him Pdonkey for a reason (puppy donkey.... Pdonkey).

We don't start till October so he will be 15 months, and fully recovered too (she says with confidence.......)

Watch this space....
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Old 07-01-2013, 06:04 PM
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Oh Beanie, PLEASE don't feel like you have to prove yourself to anyone! I run a Finnish Spitz, for crying out loud! We've been relatively successful thus far (part luck, part Kimma being a good dog), but I know it's going to take us FOREVER to get our Excellent title. Let alone Masters! But you have Payton and are a great trainer, and you will find ways to make his training successful. I didn't have classes for a LONG while when I was working recall with Kimma, and it honestly helped I think. We came back to classes more confident than ever, and she worked very well for me (with some hiccups of course!).

With Jari I'm taking it SUPER slow. All training is super fun time play stuff. And it will remain that way for at least another year. I felt so pressured to start with Kimma for a while, but I'm glad I waited until I was confident and she was really into the game (just before she turned 3). I plan on doing the same with Jari, and hopefully one day he too will be ready!

ETA - Some of the dogs that Kimma started training with began competing months and months before she did. They got through Novice pretty quickly, but have been stuck in Open for forever. Others we know are phenomenal in class, but have trialing issues. It's never just easy. That's part of what makes it so fun for me! Every class, every trial, is another learning opportunity for you and your dog.
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Old 07-01-2013, 06:11 PM
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5 months later, dog almost 2 years old, having inexplicably found our way into Open Standard, there were undoubtedly people wondering why on earth I was running this dog:

Oh god. When he got the zoomies, I LOL'd.

I don't do agility, but the first time I stepped into a rally ring I said to myself, "Self, this is either going to be totally fine or your dog is going to be a YouTube sensation a la Fenton. Either way, it's good."

I'm shocked at how much trash talk there can be ringside at trials. My husband wouldn't even tell me some of the comments he overheard about us at our first trial. But you know what? My dog may have scored a 77, but I'm not crazy enough to be in tears over a single point and none of them get to live with my Squashies so they can all eff right the eff off.
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Old 07-01-2013, 06:23 PM
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Oh god. When he got the zoomies, I LOL'd.

I don't do agility, but the first time I stepped into a rally ring I said to myself, "Self, this is either going to be totally fine or your dog is going to be a YouTube sensation a la Fenton. Either way, it's good."

I'm shocked at how much trash talk there can be ringside at trials. My husband wouldn't even tell me some of the comments he overheard about us at our first trial. But you know what? My dog may have scored a 77, but I'm not crazy enough to be in tears over a single point and none of them get to live with my Squashies so they can all eff right the eff off.
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Old 07-01-2013, 06:36 PM
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I've heard trash talk at conformation but not at agility yet. Most people here seem pretty laid back thankfully. Maybe it's because the sport is so new here and the community so small? I dunno, but I like it.
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Old 07-01-2013, 06:45 PM
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none of them get to live with my Squashies so they can all eff right the eff off.
Darn right! I love it!

That video of Pirate always cracks me up. I'm always watching thinking "Boy that's a great dog walk. Boy that's a great a-frame. Oh...goodbye, Pirate."

My most epic of epic agility moments sadly was never caught on film. It was with Meg (as all epic agility moments must be; Gusto will never reach her level of weird). Great, fun, 2 day outdoor trial. Big crowd, end of the day Saturday, the starters/advanced ring was done, all that was left to run was Steeplechase. So of course, everyone has their chairs pulled up there, the jello shots are a-flowing (hey, it is USDAA after all). I'd come down later in the day and only signed up for steeplechase on Saturday, because we were chasing PIII gamblers Qs and that was Sunday. And then I walked the course.

Oh, hello chute.


Meg, for those of you who don't know, is "quirky". Among other things, at that point in time my Masters level dog was going through a period of chute phobia. That's nice normal chutes. Not this monstrosity.

I figured it's steeplechase, there are no refusals, just run faster. We got to the chute, she ran around it. I went with my plan and stood there, holding my position. Meg kept coming back to me as she should, then running around the chute again. She circled it 3 or 4 times, jumping over the fabric. I was trying to decide what to do next when she decided the obvious answer was to stand on top of the roof. She stood on top of it, nubbin going as fast as possible, so pleased that she'd found a way to interact with the chute in a way that didn't scare her. The crowd was quite literally rolling on the ground. People still bring it up when they see Meg.

And the next day, of course the gamble involved the chute.

Suffice to say we don't trial there anymore, despite the fact that we started constructing things like this during practices:


So there, you can't possibly be more of a laughing stock than we were. You are now safe to trial anywhere, with any dog.
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Old 07-01-2013, 06:47 PM
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I've heard trash talk at conformation but not at agility yet. Most people here seem pretty laid back thankfully. Maybe it's because the sport is so new here and the community so small? I dunno, but I like it.
We don't hear a lot of trash talk at our agility trials. For the most part folks are very supportive and helpful. Folks just tend to walk away if someone starts.

Lol, I was running a fun match and a bunch of folks told me about a woman (I know her and wasn't surprised) that was trash talking people running their dogs. Easy fix, her entries were denied at future fun matches.

That is the thing I love about agility (at least up here) min trash talk.
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Old 07-01-2013, 06:55 PM
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Omg, has anyone NOT had a dog do the zoomies at a trial?

Years ago when I was getting Bobbi ready for his first trial, everyone was taking bets as to what he would do first. Jump on ring crew or the judge. We were almost finished a nice clean jumpers run and he took off across the ring, leaped out of the ring and blasted on this poor man's lap sitting ringside at his crates, mugged this guy's face with his tongue and raced back to me. As he raced back to me, he noticed the judge standing in the ring. That fast he leaped up into her arms, slobbering her face. She put him down, cracked up, Bobbi rejoined me and we finished out. As I left the ring I over heard someone say, 'Well there is one jrt that can't be accused of being aggressive' lol.
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Old 07-01-2013, 07:42 PM
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We don't hear a lot of trash talk at our agility trials. For the most part folks are very supportive and helpful. Folks just tend to walk away if someone starts.
There actually isn't much around here either. It's a few bad apples, but ironically they tend to be the ones who aren't really doing anything spectacular themselves. The kindest people to me have generally been the "big name" people, at least for our area. They have nothing to prove, they aren't insecure, and they like seeing people do well.

What I do see in our area a lot (and I'd guess in a lot of dog areas) is people offering advice that wasn't asked for. I rarely see it being offered in any way other than an attempt to be helpful, but I know from being on the other side that it can feel hurtful at the wrong time. I truly don't think it is meant to be unkind though, at least in 90% of the cases.
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Okay, so I need some help from you guys. I have an agility lesson this weekend with a great trainer. I've taken one other lesson with her before, last summer, and one seminar. She doesn't always handle the way I would choose to with Gusto at this point, but she's never had an issue with me saying that (asking me if I've proofed his contacts against blind crosses, I just said I don't want to do those with him yet since he likes to duck behind me, we moved on cheerfully). What I LOVE about her and her dogs is that she does a fantastic job motivating them, keeping them playing with her, and running fast. And she does it with some physical limitations, which, given my lack of speed, is helpful to me.

The other times I've worked with her it hasn't been in private - a group at the seminar, and my other lesson was a semi-private where I kind of let the other handler take the lead. So I know it is going to start with "what do you want to work on", and I'm not sure exactly what I should be asking for.

Gusto's obstacle skills are generally good - his weave poles need more proofing for sure, but I know that. What we need is help increasing his speed, both over the ground and over the obstacles, and tightening up his turns and stuff, since he's still kind of "baby-dog loopy". He doesn't "pick up" nicely from front crosses; I don't know if it is my timing or reward placement or what. This is all assuming I get the dog I usually have these days, and not Silly Baby Dog who needs to go spend an hour sniffing the fence line.

Is there anything specific I should be asking for? Wording things a certain way? I know that words like "drive" get thrown around, and half the time everyone means something different. Do I give that whole speech, or should I just have a quick answer on hand ("I need to work on handling").

I'm excited; I like this trainer, and she will be back in our area again in August for another round of lessons. But I always feel like such a babbling idiot in situations like this - or I clam up and give one word answers. Or both!

Any advice?
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