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Old 06-24-2013, 06:16 PM
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Honestly, how much more in depth do I need to get talking? We have talked to the kids and the grandparents three times and have explained our reasons for the kids not to jump the fence (namely that it isn't there to support the weight of a child and also my dogs). The kids have been asked to just come to the door and let us retrieve their balls and if we aren't home to wait for us to get back or leave a note at the door.

I'm all for being neighborly but I also expect my wishes regarding my property to be respected. The fence is there primarily to keep my dogs in, but it should serve as a deterrent for other creatures coming in as well.) I don't allow my dogs to be disrespectful by running all over the place or barking while they're outside. Why can the kids act that way? My parents taught me early on to respect people and their things. I never would have dreamed of hopping my neighbor's fences, and I grew up in a very tight knit community.

We live in an extremely litigious society, and I have two rotties, a chow and an older fence. I'm not about to get sued because the grandparents don't have control over the disrespectful kids. KWIM?

I sent my insurance agent an email to get her thoughts
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Old 06-24-2013, 07:08 PM
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Could you have the fencing done just along their side for now? Or I think you can get those vinyl "fence" panels that are about that height relatively inexpensively. At least it would add some height so their balls might not come over and/or they couldn't climb it?
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Could you have the fencing done just along their side for now? Or I think you can get those vinyl "fence" panels that are about that height relatively inexpensively. At least it would add some height so their balls might not come over and/or they couldn't climb it?
We talked about that last night. It's an option that's on the table.

I'm really not the old curmudgeon I come across as, I swear. I just... I don't know. I don't have kids and the thought of any hypothetical children of mine trespassing, especially where there are unfamiliar dogs and even more especially after they'd been explicitly asked not to do so, is appalling to me.

I've considered letting the kids over to play/make friends with the dogs, but there again, I think I am inviting trouble based on their history.
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Old 06-24-2013, 07:32 PM
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.....Maybe I'm just a tad harsh, but a bit of hottape run along the top wouldn't maim them for life. And bonus points for keeping out critters or anything else that would climb over your fence.

Just let the grandparents know that you are doing it so there's due warning.

Otherwise, if there's ever a time you're outside and a ball comes over, just throw it back or ask them to come around to the door and you'll meet them there. Give them a glass of lemonade or something and ask them to take it easy in the heat.
I was about to say the same thing ... Except I wouldn't tell anyone, if any questions were roused I would say it was for the dogs
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Call the police and make a trespassing complaint.
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We talked about that last night. It's an option that's on the table.

I'm really not the old curmudgeon I come across as, I swear. I just... I don't know. I don't have kids and the thought of any hypothetical children of mine trespassing, especially where there are unfamiliar dogs and even more especially after they'd been explicitly asked not to do so, is appalling to me.

I've considered letting the kids over to play/make friends with the dogs, but there again, I think I am inviting trouble based on their history.
I think I just didn't dig how much you had already talked to them. And I agree that inviting them over to play with the dogs might make them feel like they were welcome to come over whenever they liked.
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At least you have police where you are, out where our ranch is there is nothing but county cops & they cold take up to 2 hrs to get to your house ... If they can even find it
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I want to be clear....OP I think you have every right to be upset that they are not respecting your requests to not enter your yard.

I was (and am) upset by the idea that its ok to just put barbed wire or hot fence up to deal with it or the idea that its some horrible thing to accidentally hit a ball into a yard or to hop a fence to retrieve it. In all the neighborhoods I have lived, the default assumption (barring dogs) would be no big deal to quickly hop a fence to retrieve a ball, toy, etc as long as it was not a regular constant occurence or that proper respect (not stomping through a garden etc) was given.
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Saw this meme on facebook. Couldn't help but think it was fitting.



I guess I'm just stuck on the fact that we have had to talk to them more than once. Call me crazy, but it's just common decency to respect other people's wishes, especially when they are very much so within the realm of reasonable.
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I guess I'm just stuck on the fact that we have had to talk to them more than once. Call me crazy, but it's just common decency to respect other people's wishes, especially when they are very much so within the realm of reasonable.
The next time you are out dealing with this and the grandparents I would just say "listen, I have asked numerous times to please not allow them to hop the fence. Unfortunately, at this point I have no choice but to report it as trespassing if you continue to allow them into my yard"

And then if it still continues... Call the police and report it.

I am also appalled that peoples immediate reaction is "put something on the fence to harm them"

I also have had issues with kids jumping my fence and the idea of hurting them for it is no where on my radar.
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