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Old 05-18-2013, 03:22 PM
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Programs/supports for special needs vary by state.--Early intervention (birth to five years) and then school age supports all vary by state. Diagnosis should be by qualified professionals--a diagnosis is not the same as an educational classification, which is what the IEP uses (in NY state). However, the diagnosis may indeed be what helps to determine the educational classification.

Often, some diagnosis can't be made until later (i.e. second grade/ 7yrs old) as the assessment tools are standardized for those ages for certain diagnosis.


Paige--it's not easy to finally hear that diagnosis--but your little man is the same guy you went to assessment with. He's your boy--you will take it step by step. I know you have it in you to follow your instincts. (((HUGS)))
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Old 05-18-2013, 03:29 PM
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Bax, thanks for chiming in! I'm wondering, can any teacher label a child with an education classification? Or does it take a more specific qualification to do that?
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Old 05-18-2013, 03:40 PM
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In NY state, an IEP is put in place by the CSE (Committee on Special Education)--a full committee should include a Psychologist, Gen. Ed Teacher, Spec Ed Teacher, Parent, Parent Representative, and if the student is older (say teen) the student may be a part of the meeting. The Committee makes the IEP--part of which is the educational classification. So no, a teacher alone can not do that--but they may have a suggestion as to which classification seems to best fit. Classifications are kind of like the title to a chapter in a book--gives you an idea of what that chapter is about. So the Ed. classification gives you an idea what the students needs may be like--but it is still and IEP--Individualized being the key part!

I am sure there are many teachers/aides, etc who think they know what is going on with a student. Unfortunately--many people have just a 'bit" of knowledge and over generalize it. A child who exhibits symptoms of ADD could easily be a kid who just isn't getting enough sleep! Without really delving into things, it's easy to over/mis-diagnos.
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Old 05-18-2013, 03:42 PM
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Bax, thanks for chiming in! I'm wondering, can any teacher label a child with an education classification? Or does it take a more specific qualification to do that?
I don't know about the US but here any diagnosis has to come from assessment, and that is usually carried out by the educational psychologist attached to the school or area. Every school has a 'senco' (special educational needs coordinator) who over sees things like that, but they do NOT diagnose a child, it has to be a qualified professional to give a diagnosis after assessment.

We also have CAMHS here (child and adolescent mental health service) that oversee child referrals for all manner of things.

A concern is flagged up by a parent, or teacher. They can go to their GP and be referred to CAMHS. A psychologist can then carry out an assessment on the child and offer a diagnosis. Outside of ed psyche, or for more specialised assessments etc.

We also have a portage service for pre school age kids where there are concerns. Again, a parent can contact them, or they can be referred. They send a portage worker into the home, and they can work with parents with all manner of things (educational, developmental) and can feed into assessments, but again, only a psychologist can diagnose.

I'm guess it would be similar internationally.

I know here they are very very unlikely to diagnose a child with asd, ADHD, etc etc before school age. It does happen, but only in extreme cases.

Eta, I should probably say its not JUST psychologists lol, like they are the law. There are specialist paediatricians too. And of course psychiatrists. Etc. what I mean is.... A lay person can not diagnose.
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Ugh, guys... Sorry to keep barging in like this, but I'm super worried now. After having milk come in last night.. I woke up this morning to brown discharge. I'm scared these are signs I could go into labor soon. I'm 33 weeks..
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Ugh, guys... Sorry to keep barging in like this, but I'm super worried now. After having milk come in last night.. I woke up this morning to brown discharge. I'm scared these are signs I could go into labor soon. I'm 33 weeks..
Go to the emergency room. you will have to wait of course , but they wont turn you away and they may have programs to help. i googled brown discharge form pregnant nipple and all sites say go to the doctor. so go!!!!! the er will bill you which medicaid will pay once you get it straight. go now.
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Go to the emergency room. you will have to wait of course , but they wont turn you away and they may have programs to help. i googled brown discharge form pregnant nipple and all sites say go to the doctor. so go!!!!! the er will bill you which medicaid will pay once you get it straight. go now.
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Oh no, I worded that wrong. Brown discharge from my vagina... Milk from my nipple still. Lol. He's also dropped really low. I am considering an er trip.
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Old 05-18-2013, 05:31 PM
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Get to an ER if you're having brown discharge before 36 weeks. It's likely your mucus plug. There's a chance it's no big deal and you're not dilated at all, but it could be kind of serious. Didn't you also already have a preterm labor scare?
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Oh no, I worded that wrong. Brown discharge from my vagina... Milk from my nipple still. Lol. He's also dropped really low. I am considering an er trip.
Chiming in here.

At this stage in your pregnancy I would go straight to L&D. They will check you and baby out and if needed you will be where you need to be.

It could be nothing BUT....Please err on the side of caution.

Will be praying for you and baby.
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Ugh, guys... Sorry to keep barging in like this, but I'm super worried now. After having milk come in last night.. I woke up this morning to brown discharge. I'm scared these are signs I could go into labor soon. I'm 33 weeks..
Your milk hasn't come in, that doesn't happen until after baby is born. Nipple leakage is normal. It's colostrum.

Brown discharge could be normal too but definitely best to get checked out. Did it seem like old blood or was it mucousy? As someone said above, it could have been your mucus plug which could mean nothing. It can regenerate several times during pregnancy. But still, better to be safe than sorry in case your cervix is dilating and that's the cause for the discharge.
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