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Old 04-27-2013, 04:32 PM
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This is maybe a year or two out. That way Rowan will be 8/9, so not too old, and Riff will be 3/4, so not so young and crazy!

- I prefer between 25-50 lbs, with 30-35 being ideal. Could go a bit bigger or smaller for the right dog, but nothing tiny or huge.

- Trainable, eager to please. I like intelligent but don't need it as long as the dog is relatively easy to teach. Rowan is problematically intelligent AND pretty easy to train; Riff is kind of dumb but also not very easy to train which I find to be a frustrating combo.

- I like a Velcro dog, but I have two dogs with SA already and am really tired of dealing with it. Ideally the dog would be happy to shadow me when I'm around, but be independent enough to handle being alone for periods of time (usually not more than 4 hours.)

- I really want an affectionate/cuddly person. I'm very touchy-feely and want a dog that can at least tolerate that, although I'd prefer they enjoy it too

- I want a dog with enough drive and "oomph" to enjoy playing dog sports, but I don't want a dog that is so go-go-go that they need a job all the time. I'm willing to sacrifice some drive for that; I'd like to put a few titles on the dog (agility, maybe rally) but don't need a real high end competition dog.

- MUST GET ALONG WITH OTHER DOGS. This is huge. Rowan has a very low tolerance for rudeness, so while there's certainly a training aspect on this requirement (learning boundaries, proper greetings etc) I really need an easygoing dog that is ok with Rowan being a little bit of a bossy punk. This one is a little hard to pinpoint because his favorite dogs and some of his best friends are cattle dogs/cattle dog mixes which are just as pushy and snarky as him. However they've all had good dog sense; they seem to read each other well and never push over each other's thresholds. The real problem is crazy, excitable oblivious dogs (like sweet Riffers) who has no idea how obnoxious he's being.

- I prefer a coat I can bury my fingers in, so like a lab's fur or thicker/longer is my preference. I could go for a smooth coat for the right dog, it's just not my favorite. High grooming requirements are ok, not my favorite thing to deal with but it's a compromise I'd be willing to make.

- Ideally will get along with cats in the house as well. I don't have one now but likely will in the dog's lifetime. They would never be left alone together, I just don't want the dog constantly chasing the cat either.

- Temperament with strangers doesn't really matter. I like anything from aloof to extremely friendly. Rowan thinks everyone is his best friend but I would be just as happy with a dog who didn't care.

- I'd LOVE a dog I could train to go hiking and stuff off leash.

I have a list of potentials, but I'm curious what you guys would suggest!
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Field line English Cocker. You just described my mom's working bred Cocker boy to a T.

ETA: I'll address each point at length later. Promise. But seriously. I could clone Ollie and I think you'd be delighted with him.
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Look at the spaniel breeds. Maybe a Brittany? I did think of a sporting line Mini poodle.
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BOXER (except for the hair). But they fit everything else pretty much to a T.

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American Eskimo

Are you interested in rescuing? I feel like a lot of medium size goldeny-spaniely or even herder type mixes fit what you want.
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That entire description fits the one K/Coolie that I know (and know very, very well, having lived with him for 6 months and I do frequent daycare for him otherwise, as well). He's somewhat more dialed down than it sounds like the other Coolies on the board are, I think? He would be absolutely stellar at agility or rally, but he also loves to lay around and cuddle with his people.

He's about 35lbs, very trainable/eager to please AND intelligent, a total velcro dog (he does whine/cry sometimes when left crated alone, but does well when he's left free in the house, and doesn't get into stuff), very into cuddling, definitely enough drive for sports, fur longer than a lab, but not super long, not high grooming needs, gets along very well with cats, friendly with strangers but mostly into "his" person/people, and lastly fantastic off leash.
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This is maybe a year or two out. That way Rowan will be 8/9, so not too old, and Riff will be 3/4, so not so young and crazy!

- I prefer between 25-50 lbs, with 30-35 being ideal. Could go a bit bigger or smaller for the right dog, but nothing tiny or huge.

- Trainable, eager to please. I like intelligent but don't need it as long as the dog is relatively easy to teach. Rowan is problematically intelligent AND pretty easy to train; Riff is kind of dumb but also not very easy to train which I find to be a frustrating combo.

- I like a Velcro dog, but I have two dogs with SA already and am really tired of dealing with it. Ideally the dog would be happy to shadow me when I'm around, but be independent enough to handle being alone for periods of time (usually not more than 4 hours.)

- I really want an affectionate/cuddly person. I'm very touchy-feely and want a dog that can at least tolerate that, although I'd prefer they enjoy it too

- I want a dog with enough drive and "oomph" to enjoy playing dog sports, but I don't want a dog that is so go-go-go that they need a job all the time. I'm willing to sacrifice some drive for that; I'd like to put a few titles on the dog (agility, maybe rally) but don't need a real high end competition dog.

- MUST GET ALONG WITH OTHER DOGS. This is huge. Rowan has a very low tolerance for rudeness, so while there's certainly a training aspect on this requirement (learning boundaries, proper greetings etc) I really need an easygoing dog that is ok with Rowan being a little bit of a bossy punk. This one is a little hard to pinpoint because his favorite dogs and some of his best friends are cattle dogs/cattle dog mixes which are just as pushy and snarky as him. However they've all had good dog sense; they seem to read each other well and never push over each other's thresholds. The real problem is crazy, excitable oblivious dogs (like sweet Riffers) who has no idea how obnoxious he's being.

- I prefer a coat I can bury my fingers in, so like a lab's fur or thicker/longer is my preference. I could go for a smooth coat for the right dog, it's just not my favorite. High grooming requirements are ok, not my favorite thing to deal with but it's a compromise I'd be willing to make.

- Ideally will get along with cats in the house as well. I don't have one now but likely will in the dog's lifetime. They would never be left alone together, I just don't want the dog constantly chasing the cat either.

- Temperament with strangers doesn't really matter. I like anything from aloof to extremely friendly. Rowan thinks everyone is his best friend but I would be just as happy with a dog who didn't care.

- I'd LOVE a dog I could train to go hiking and stuff off leash.

I have a list of potentials, but I'm curious what you guys would suggest!
Some of the various herding breeds. They might run a little closer to the higher end of your weight want. Hudson is 8 months and around 36/37 lbs, so he isn't going to be terribly large
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That entire description fits the one K/Coolie that I know (and know very, very well, having lived with him for 6 months and I do frequent daycare for him otherwise, as well). He's somewhat more dialed down than it sounds like the other Coolies on the board are, I think? He would be absolutely stellar at agility or rally, but he also loves to lay around and cuddle with his people.

He's about 35lbs, very trainable/eager to please AND intelligent, a total velcro dog (he does whine/cry sometimes when left crated alone, but does well when he's left free in the house, and doesn't get into stuff), very into cuddling, definitely enough drive for sports, fur longer than a lab, but not super long, not high grooming needs, gets along very well with cats, friendly with strangers but mostly into "his" person/people, and lastly fantastic off leash.
Oh, I forgot the bit about other dogs. He's really great with all other dogs from what I've seen, good at changing his playing style depending on the dog, etc.
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Field line English Cocker. You just described my mom's working bred Cocker boy to a T.

ETA: I'll address each point at length later. Promise. But seriously. I could clone Ollie and I think you'd be delighted with him.
This makes me happy, because I've had a budding interest in field line English Cockers lately, and I really like what I've read about them. Plus they are SO darn cute. I'm looking forward to hearing more from you about them!

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Look at the spaniel breeds. Maybe a Brittany? I did think of a sporting line Mini poodle.
I've been thinking that some sort of spaniel might be a good option, yeah! I have a Brittany currently I adore him, but he's very unlike the other Brittanys I've met, and the other ones have had this sort of frantic energy that I'm not a fan of. That could just be the ones around here, though.

As far as poodles, they will always have a place in my heart. I've considered a good sporting line mini but haven't had much luck finding breeders so far. I would also sell my soul for a standard eventually, even though they're typically above my size range, but I'm not sure I want to deal with the grooming yet. I've done toy and mini poodles, but for some reason the grooming aspect is more intimidating with a standard! Just the amount of hair, I guess

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BOXER (except for the hair). But they fit everything else pretty much to a T.

English Springer Spaniel
American Eskimo

Are you interested in rescuing? I feel like a lot of medium size goldeny-spaniely or even herder type mixes fit what you want.
That's interesting, I would've never considered a boxer. The ones I'm around on a regular basis are pretty rough and tumble and not super considerate of doggy etiquette, although I also don't know anything about their background/how they were raised/etc. There are a couple I really like, but they've always been the minority. I'll read more about them!

Springers are a consideration, although I'm not a fan of the long pendulous ears on the show type - dealt with ear infections all the time in my poorly-bred poodles growing up and and would like to at least minimize the chances of doing it again! I feel like the field type might have a bit too much energy for what I'm looking for. I haven't ruled them out, though!

Not too interested in Eskies; I've heard about so many temperamental issues in them that I've been kind of turned off. I guess I don't know anything about what they're *supposed* to be like, though.

I'd prefer to get my next dog from a good breeder.

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That entire description fits the one K/Coolie that I know (and know very, very well, having lived with him for 6 months and I do frequent daycare for him otherwise, as well). He's somewhat more dialed down than it sounds like the other Coolies on the board are, I think? He would be absolutely stellar at agility or rally, but he also loves to lay around and cuddle with his people.
He sounds just about perfect! I had never considered K/Coolies since Traveler/Didgie/Zinga all sound like way too much dog for me, at least at this point in my life. Would you mind if I PMed you at some point with some questions?

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Some of the various herding breeds. They might run a little closer to the higher end of your weight want. Hudson is 8 months and around 36/37 lbs, so he isn't going to be terribly large
I'm not super worried about size. I'm willing to bend on that one, that's just my ideal range I do have a big soft spot for the herders.
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Kootenay is right I think and a Koolie does hit a lot of your wants. I tend not to recommend them because to be honest because I think for most people another breed fits just as well without the hassel of importing, be it from Canada or from Australia.

But, I know a lot of Koolies (including mine) that for the most part are just active pets that get a good amount of exercise and mental work. I would put them up there with a BC in terms of exercise/training requirements with the understanding that they have a decent variety in the breed. Some off the wall crazy and others more mellow. Both Traveler and Didgie settle very well in the house but to require exercise and training or they will go stir crazy fast.

I do think that overall Traveler and Didgie are probably higher drive and more intense than Tamlyn but that was what I was looking for and cultivated in them.

But yeah, they do hit most of your points quite well! So if you're interested you could probably very easily find a breeder somewhere producing consistently what you wanted. But, I'll be honest and say you could probably find another breed more local that also would do just as well.
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Definitely you can PM me anytime! I can't speak for the breed on the whole, like Linds and Sara can, as I have just met one, but he really does sound like exactly what you described
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