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Old 04-26-2013, 09:45 AM
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I never said they did, anyway I have recieved loads of very useful information elsewhere by some very nice people who actually cared to provide me with USEFUL info instead of a bunch of snarky comments ...
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Old 04-26-2013, 10:01 AM
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So, why not a dogo?!?!??!
Honestly? Because molosser breeds are not normally suited to people with severe social disorders. These dogs are very in-tune with their owners and the owner's discomfort in social situations is going to travel right on down the leash and can cause the dog to assume that otherwise normal social interactions are threatening because of the way the owner reacts to them. That can create a pretty damned dangerous situation, and I don't know about you, but I'd like to be able to legally own these breeds for the remainder of my lifetime.
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Old 04-26-2013, 10:14 AM
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Like I said, I have gotten much more useful information elsewhere, I started this thread here in hopes of gaining as much useful information as I could, but instead there is three pages of snarky comments & personal attacks.

My opinions on certian matters shouldnt factor into the topic of inquiring information on a certain breed.

I would also like to see your psychology degree that allows you to say that I have severe social problems, in CERTAIN situations; crowded resturants, or supermarkets like walmart etc ... yes I DO have issues, BUT the last time I checked, dogs werent allowed in those places so I do not think I will be taking my dog there.

I was PLANNING on taking them to places where we could BOTH feel comfortable; Lowes, Home Depot, Petsmart, Petco, Pet Supplies Plus, there we could be in a TRUELY pet friendly enviroment that is low stress for the both of us.
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Old 04-26-2013, 10:21 AM
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I would also like to see your psychology degree that allows you to say that I have severe social problems
Oh you have no idea how tempting it is to drive out and tear apart that storage shed, if only to watch you choke when you bury that foot in your mouth...

...but seriously, it's not as if the signs are all that subtle.

So what's the big, well thought out plan when you haul this 140 lb dog in to Petsmart and get bombarded by people who want to ask you questions about a breed they've never seen before, or get caught in a crowded area?
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It seems that theres a back story that I'm not familiar with... so I will step back...I will just share my experience...
The backstory is I have differing opinions on some things UNRELATED to dogs & they cant get past that ... that is all, they keep bringing it up in threads that have NOTHING to do with my social issues.

Yes I have social adversion/anxiety/phobia.

Have you ever though that having a large, powerful dog that *could* PROTECT me if something were to go wrong might HELP my problems??? No, I guess not. Besides I have gotten that with the popular breeds I have owned (GSDs, JRTs, dobes etc ...) I even got "bombarded" as you put it with Smut, a dane/mastiff-something mix I had who WAS close to 140 lbs (he was neutered at the shelter as a puppy & I think thats what made him grow so large) & looked similiar to a corso in build.

Of course there were stupid comments like "ever ride that thing" & "I bet he eats you out of house & home" but most people were too afraid of HIM (not me) to approacch at all, they just moved to the other isle or turned & went the other way when they ssaw him coming ... he was trained very well though I did use a prong on him (mostly because of his size).

BUT the general reaction to him was good because he was a well behaved dog in public, always watched me, waiting for a command.

If you DO have a degree, you must not have been a very good psychologist if you treat people you are aware to have "problems" the way you do.
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Like I said, I have gotten much more useful information elsewhere, I started this thread here in hopes of gaining as much useful information as I could, but instead there is three pages of snarky comments & personal attacks.

My opinions on certian matters shouldnt factor into the topic of inquiring information on a certain breed.

I would also like to see your psychology degree that allows you to say that I have severe social problems, in CERTAIN situations; crowded resturants, or supermarkets like walmart etc ... yes I DO have issues, BUT the last time I checked, dogs werent allowed in those places so I do not think I will be taking my dog there.

I was PLANNING on taking them to places where we could BOTH feel comfortable; Lowes, Home Depot, Petsmart, Petco, Pet Supplies Plus, there we could be in a TRUELY pet friendly enviroment that is low stress for the both of us.
I have a psychology degree, but I don't need it to know you have severe social issues. YOU have mentioned it enough in that breast feeding thread:

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I was BF & I am not healthy emotionally ... Not my parents fault, they were good parents it was the school system that failed me I think. My parents tried to tell them that I was being harassed & bullied even physically harmed, but since they were smart enough to catch me on the walk home, the school told them there was nothing they could do.

It's ok if people (including those here) hate me for the way I am ... I am used to it now, in fact I'd rather ours dislike me because the. They stay away. I don't even let my OH get "that" close.
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Oh I have gotten dirty looks because of my tattoos before ... & two of them were from my own parents back when I first got them. But it. doesnt. bother. me. People can give me dirty looks all they want & dirty looks are dirty looks ... thereis nothing they can do beyond glaring at me, I just smirk BACK at THEM. I actually like that my tattoos offend them.

Its just not BF mothers (though I havent seen one in a long long time so there has been no glaring anyway) glaring is just something I use to keep people away from me.

Luckily I dont go into public very often & when I do I usually stare clear of people anyway. so the likelyhood of me noticing a BF mother is slim to none, coupled with the fact that this is a very concervative town & thus not many people do it anyway. I have not actively demeaned any BF mother because I havent been exposed to it. I guess its the thought of something touching me there that makes it so gross to me ... I dont even like my clothes touching my boobs & nipples, the thought makes my stomach queasy ... I just dont like the sensation.
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I don't consider myself sociopath just anti social. I'm not a psycho, your talking about me like I am Norman Bates :/ I never have not do I now have the desire to harm another person, I just don't want them around me ... In most cases.

I had a very tough childhood at the hands of my peers, some of it was even physical ... But most of it was emotionally damaging.
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Yes I dislike people I don't like my own species ... Too many bad experiences my OH & I have had arguments in the past about being he Ben more social but it's just not my nature & now he understands that.

I guess that's why I always took jobs w/ animals & people who were also social outcasts. I don't want to conform to what society says is "right" or "proper" screw society
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Old 04-26-2013, 10:52 AM
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I dont have experience with Dogos or Corsos....but I can tell you with danes (that are "softer" I guess would be the best word but still Molossers) any anxiety carries straight to them. I had to work really really hard to have them be comfortable around strangers, groups, etc and my female especially is a bit nervous still. Nothing debilitating but I KNOW its my fault and it drives me nuts. My husband helps balance it and that helps and my anxiety is not that bad...I do generally enjoy people and like them..even then, the bit I do have transfers straight to them.
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Yes I have social adversion/anxiety/phobia.
Then you're probably NOT SUITED to a large to giant GUARDIAN molosser breed.

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Have you ever though that having a large, powerful dog that *could* PROTECT me if something were to go wrong might HELP my problems??? No, I guess not.
No, because the **** dog isn't going to have a clear understanding of WHAT is a legitimate threat and WHAT you need protection FROM when you're tense, anxious, nervous, and/or aggressive in otherwise NORMAL, non-threatening social situations!

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dane/mastiff-something mix I had who WAS close to 140 lbs (he was neutered at the shelter as a puppy & I think thats what made him grow so large) & looked similiar to a corso in build.
I don't give a flying quart of hydrogenated wombat snot what the dog LOOKED like. A Corso is not a "Dane/Mastiff-something mix." A Dogo is not a "Dane/Mastiff-something mix." That would be like running out and getting a Fila because you "used to have a Bloodhound/Mastiff-something mix that kind of looked like one, so it'll be OK!"


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If you DO have a degree, you must not have been a very good psychologist if you treat people you are aware to have "problems" the way you do.
Never once have I claimed that I am a practicing psychologist.
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Old 04-26-2013, 11:12 AM
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Never mind ... I dont need this thread anymore. I have another contact that is much more informative then most of you have been.

Thank you though, You guys can talk amongst yourselves. I have been given a few breeder contacts to gather information from.

I was hoping we could leave our differing opinions about this out of THIS ... a thread that has nothing to do with what we were disagreeing about in the first place. It's like if someone hated tattoos or pink shirts or VFF's (all things I like or are interested in), & they were asking about a certain breed & I said something snarky because I KNOW they dont like tattoos/pink shirts/VFF's.

Bottom line IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CURRENT TOPIC!!! YOU all are the ones bringing it in here, I' AM NOT. We were arguing about it in another thread, I dont bring it into another totally unrelated one unless SOMEONE DOES FIRST.

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Oh you have no idea how tempting it is to drive out and tear apart that storage shed, if only to watch you choke when you bury that foot in your mouth...

...but seriously, it's not as if the signs are all that subtle.
Which is what led me to believe you had the crudentials to back it up. maybe someone else should be eating their foot right now.
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