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Old 03-20-2013, 10:14 PM
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Ok here we go.

http://youtu.be/TZOIncv2HjY

(Make sure HD is clicked)

Yeah I feel like a stalker now but Dash is CUTE. lol

I thought I had gotten my friend and her sheltie on video during their challengers round but I realized halfway through their run that the recording light as not on. Like I said, I fail. Every time a person I'd want to record would step up... I'd forget to record.
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Yeah I feel like a stalker now but Dash is CUTE. lol
I heart Dash with everything. If I could get a pyrshep exactly like Dash, I so would.
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Old 03-21-2013, 04:48 PM
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He may be the cutest dog in the history of dogs. (You know... other than mia) And holy crap so charismatic.
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I heart Dash with everything. If I could get a pyrshep exactly like Dash, I so would.
Heck so would I. Well, with a smooth face (Isn't he rough? I can't remember). It's the variability in the breed that really throws me...I mean I just there is variability in most breeds, it's just with PyrSheps I have no idea where to even start to get what I want in any reliable sort of way.
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He's a demi-rough. Call me crazy but I think I actually like the demis the best. In person they are so cute.
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Heck so would I. Well, with a smooth face (Isn't he rough? I can't remember). It's the variability in the breed that really throws me...I mean I just there is variability in most breeds, it's just with PyrSheps I have no idea where to even start to get what I want in any reliable sort of way.
I don't mind the variability. The problem I had was that when I asked his breeder if the pyrsheps she produces are more on the "Dash" side of the spectrum or the more fearful, less drivey side. She told me that the majority of the dogs she produces are on the other side of the spectrum as Dash and that Dash was an exception.

I didn't like my odds.
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I don't mind the variability. The problem I had was that when I asked his breeder if the pyrsheps she produces are more on the "Dash" side of the spectrum or the more fearful, less drivey side. She told me that the majority of the dogs she produces are on the other side of the spectrum as Dash and that Dash was an exception.

I didn't like my odds.
I think we have the same idea but you're just wording it better lol. Many of the ones I've met have some rather stark fear and/or overstimulation issues. I can and have dealt with that but I'd rather not again... but the odd drivey punky smooth face Pyr Shep is right up my alley so I'm always a little bit tempted...but the odds...
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I enjoyed the variety I saw this last weekend. And I do know that most I saw were at the top level of agility for the breed as they were at nationals. But I also met a few that were 'along for the ride'. I'm sure seeing them not at a trial would be better but I did see them just chilling. I saw some fearfulness for sure, but not nearly as much as I was expecting. And not really much more stressiness and fearfulness than I saw in BCs and shelties there too. The one dog I saw REALLY stressing was in a situation I guarantee you would have made Mia stress out in too. And a minute later that same dog was jumping up and saying hi to a decent sized group of people. Some of the sheps weren't as drivey as I personally like but... a lot of the shelties weren't as drivey as I like either. And some of the border collies too.

I met dogs from 4 different breeders. But one thing I realize is IF (big if, I'm still talking to breeders) I do go that direction that being open to rough coats is going to not narrow my options nearly as much. I would rather get a good well rounded dog than a dog that looks the way I like.

funny starting out I only liked the smooths. Now I'm talking to a breeder that has no smooths so getting the look I like isn't even an option if (big if again) I go with said breeder.

Anyways, I'm still in heavy research phase. The breeders I've talked to all seem to present the breed pretty realistically and also are very thorough about who gets their dogs. I wouldn't want a bad fit and I hope they'd let me know if they think it's a bad fit.

I just kept coming back to them for about 6 years now and I wanted to explore the option completely.
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I think we have the same idea but you're just wording it better lol. Many of the ones I've met have some rather stark fear and/or overstimulation issues. I can and have dealt with that but I'd rather not again... but the odd drivey punky smooth face Pyr Shep is right up my alley so I'm always a little bit tempted...but the odds...
Samesies. That was the mindset I was in when I was on the list, I can deal with it, I've dealt with it before. Then I realized that I really, really didn't WANT to deal with it again. At least not right now. If only the odds were more in my favor. LOL
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worked on our sit stays which are problematic at the startline.
Start line stays are evil. Tully was no trouble for holding start lines, but she went faster if I ran with her, and it made her happier, so I did (once I figured it out. Took me a few years). I screwed Tess' start line up totally by being inconsistent, and I gave up and don't do one now. Which adds quite a layer of challenge.

I was determined for Pirate to have a start line, so I spent months with him in his initial training, replacing him at the start line as many times as it took. I finally got it, and thought he was pretty solid. Then recently, he started breaking them.

I think I fixed it, though. I was working on it, gave it some thought, and realized that whenever I lead out, I first hold up my hand to indicate the jump, then give the verbal release. And what do we do when we're teaching a dog a new cue? Yep, pair it with the old one. And of course, lifting a hand is a vague cue. So it he's releasing on that, he starts releasing on any movement of my hand.

So my training has been to show him that it doesn't matter what my hand does, he can't release until the verbal. Clear and consistent. And thankfully, it appears to be effective.

Of course, Elmo never had trouble with his start line, and Tully never had trouble except that she ran better without one, so my first few years in agility, I thought the people who had bad startlines were crappy trainers. I try not to think things like that anymore, I've been smacked down too many times.
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