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Old 02-22-2013, 02:24 PM
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I certainly hope no one thought I was implying I thought anyone who conceal carries is a paranoid nutjob. I was seriously wondering if it was more of a hobby type thing (and I do know people who keep guns as a "in case of zombie apocalypse" or violent revolution....and they're not nuts, either. They don't realistically think these are likely or even plausible situations, they just think it's a fun sort of hobby to be prepared and plan for it.)

I live in an area with an extremely low crime rate - but I do frequently enough go to areas with higher crime rate, including walking to and from a subway station multiple times a week on a street where 9 women were raped (by the same man) in one night. I've always felt perfectly safe with lesser weapons of defense (mace, typically), situational awareness, etc. I can't imagine that for me, personally, a gun would make me feel safer. I was just curious if anyone regularly/occasionally got put into situations where they felt they'd use a gun for protection.

Amber, I'm just curious, the night that a man approached you while you were walking Bamm - Would you have been walking in that area, alone, without Bamm? And also, do you think something like mace, a taser, or carrying an umbrella or something wouldn't dissuade him from approaching? I was grabbed by a man twice (once at a party full of people, so not really a dangerous situation) and once in an empty subway station (a situation that I KNEW was a poor choice before I got myself into it and felt very unsettled by it but still stayed instead of doing the smart thing) and both times, just swinging at the men got them to let go and back off. Even if they DIDN'T let go right away, I don't believe not having a gun put me in seriously more danger - I don't doubt the mace would get them away (aside from the fact not being a moron would have saved me from the situation in the first place).

*I didn't share that last anecdote to imply no one needs to carry a gun for protection, just throwing my own experience out there.
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Old 02-22-2013, 02:48 PM
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What are people expecting to happen that might warrant a survival pack?
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Old 02-22-2013, 02:51 PM
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I have seen how very little tasers do on the determined. Stupid things to carry. Made is even dumber.

Can't have guns on the property at work which of course is in the hood so I don't carry.

We like to shoot. It's a hobby. Have a lot of guns. No go bag though lol. I'd have a heart attack thinking about what to pack and I'd go on a horse. Gas is running out at some point.
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What are people expecting to happen that might warrant a survival pack?
Detainment, biological attack, economy crash, etc...
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What are people expecting to happen that might warrant a survival pack?
In certain areas natural disasters are a real threat--look at Katrina for example. People who were still in the city were basically in their own for a while without government assistance. In the US nearly every kind of natural disaster you can think of is in the realm of reality--hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes, wild fires, floods, tidal waves, volcanoes, massive blizzards, etc. Having a disaster kit isn't a paranoid thing, it's actually recommend by most state governments, especially after Katrina.
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Old 02-22-2013, 04:26 PM
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Wow.... I think I live in a very different world...

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In certain areas natural disasters are a real threat--look at Katrina for example. People who were still in the city were basically in their own for a while without government assistance. In the US nearly every kind of natural disaster you can think of is in the realm of reality--hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes, wild fires, floods, tidal waves, volcanoes, massive blizzards, etc. Having a disaster kit isn't a paranoid thing, it's actually recommend by most state governments, especially after Katrina.
This is reasonable. We don't have disasters like that here. Just rain, and damp, and wind and drabness.
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Old 02-22-2013, 04:31 PM
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9.0 earthquakes 100 miles off the coast. 7.0 inland, where up to 20 years ago, no one believed an earthquake over 5 could happen. Blizzards and hurricanes.

Less so guns than food and water here. Not much to shoot after the first few squirrels, and research has showed that in a disaster people are usually pretty well behaved. A gun might be nice, but I'm thinking a revolver would work as well as an AR in a lot of places.

In a flood you go higher, tornadoes destroy a small area so help can be fairly quick coming. Major earthquakes or major blizzards though, you may be on your own for a while.
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Wow.... I think I live in a very different world...
Probably. My boyfriend and I are both very anti-government, and we're waiting for them to try to take away the rest of our rights... because we're not going to be detained for resisting and we're not going to hand over our guns, etc.

Just... different strokes, ya know? I don't expect anyone to understand the things we think and feel, I just ask for a little respect about everyone's opinions, because I know ours are "out there". We don't feel they're unrealistic at all. (not say you or anyone else here are disrespecting opinions/each other, just a general note I add when talking about this type of thing).
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I want to live the good life.

You won't get that unless you like 1970s British sitcoms
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LOL, can't say I do! XD
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