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Old 02-20-2013, 06:29 PM
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That is atrocious behavior. I do not however believe behavior alone means a lack of valid need, it often means a lack of valid training. So "ill-trained" not "faked" is the issue. Lets rethink our labels, it will only benefit the cause.
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Old 02-20-2013, 06:35 PM
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Eh, for me it is definitely an issue if someone "fakes" their service dog, regardless of how well behaved they are. I dont think its ok for people to not like certain rules (like no dogs in a restaurant or grocery store) so they figure they are above them and do it anyways under false pretenses
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Old 02-20-2013, 06:43 PM
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Eh, for me it is definitely an issue if someone "fakes" their service dog, regardless of how well behaved they are. I dont think its ok for people to not like certain rules (like no dogs in a restaurant or grocery store) so they figure they are above them and do it anyways under false pretenses
To me it's the equivilant of some asshole whipping into a handicap parking space without being handicapped.
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Old 02-20-2013, 06:51 PM
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There are not a limited number of SDs allowed per store, though. That would be my counter argument.

While I don't encourage or support blatant lies I still believe the issue is far more the inconsistency in training. Most people who have SDs now would have been called fakers 10 years ago, I suppose that confuses me, I do believe adamant "this is my fake SD legally blonde hehehe dog" people are far fewer than many sell.
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as an aside: I am legally disabled, but do not use a SD for my disability because frankly Im not sure in what way one could be trained to help me, so while I dont necessarily have a dog in this fight, I do have a vested interest in ensuring disabled peoples are not discriminated against, and "fakers" are not the issue here
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Using a handicapped tag in your car if you aren't disabled is wrong. Faking an SD if you aren't disabled is wrong. Why is that so hard to understand? I do think well behaved dogs should be allowed more places, I think that may cut down on the number of fakers, but that doesn't mean people should break the law so that they can take their dog places. It's immoral and illegal.
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Using a handicapped tag in your car if you aren't disabled is wrong. Faking an SD if you aren't disabled is wrong. Why is that so hard to understand? I do think well behaved dogs should be allowed more places, I think that may cut down on the number of fakers, but that doesn't mean people should break the law so that they can take their dog places. It's immoral and illegal.
And how are you to know who is illegal and who is not? Hmmmm? A dog seemingly misbehaving may be a trained SD. A dog seemingly doing nothing at all may be a trained SD.

There is no way for you to know who is legit and who isnt. Its not up to you anyway, so how does it affect you and why do you care?
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Many of the reasons people use SDs today were previously considered a behavioral or personality issue and thus would be fakers. It's an interesting turn of validity.
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If someone says "yes, this is my dog...I tell people its a service dog so I can bring him places", yes, that is faking and WRONG
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