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Old 02-14-2013, 06:27 PM
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CC was actually where I wanted to teach if I got my Masters in art education... but I changed my mind when I found out the local college didn't hire very many teachers without a PhD. It's gotten so competitive... so... I just changed my mind and didn't pursue it.

Not that you should throw the idea out but I think it's definitely worth looking into the colleges where you are looking to teach and see if they are hiring teachers with MAs or if it's highly competitive there as well.
Thanks, I will definitely look into this. One of my concerns is if I go El-ed & SPED I would have a probably safer job hunt, especially with the growing number of SPED and classroom assistants being required anymore. That said there is always a call for an English teacher at CCs but to what extent? Full time? It's a concern even if I would like to be there.
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Old 02-14-2013, 06:30 PM
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Often when hard up for teachers they lessen the requirements such as accelerated licensure programs and MA incentive programs, et, but job security seems to come with a masters and in turn a license. Here you can't even sub without your MEd from what I understand.
Yeah it just depends on your area of the country. Where I grew up/where much of my family still lives, you basically need to have your masters AND years experience to get a job in elementary education...the competition is insane, partially because so many local kids want to grow up to teach at the school where they grew up and end up scrapping it out with each other for the limited spots.
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If it means anything, I have a friend who's finishing up her first year teaching at a community college in the communications department, and she loves it. You typically get a lot of adult students, so, students who are there because they want to be rather than because Mommy and Daddy are making them.

I just finished up 3 semesters at a CC, now I'm at a university. Yes, there are many more adult students in CC, however, you also get just as many (usually more) students who just don't care. More so than I've seen at my university. It's different than a university. The students are different. Generally classes are easier, too. Classes are smaller at CC.

There are pros and cons. That beings said, I really liked my CC experience. I had a few phenomenal teachers who took the time to get to know you, wanted you to excel, and made class interesting even if it was just writing a paper or giving a speech.

I would answer the question do you want to work with kids all day, every day? And I'd guess the pay is much better at a CC/university.
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Old 02-14-2013, 06:38 PM
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I'm comfortable fighting for a full time teaching job, I have a nice résumé with plenty of teaching and classroom aid experience, plus I keep telling myself I also have training to fall back on even when I realize this isn't my life's ambition.

I'm still struggling with which direction is best but part of me feels safest with the MEd and a SPED certification for job probability.
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Old 02-14-2013, 06:42 PM
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From what I was told pay is better in college but the benefits aren't always there. Elementary tend to be paid less than mid and high but that is due to statistically elementary teachers are less likely to pursue supplementary education beyond requirements and teachers are always paid on their education level. My moms theory is elementary is so exhausting, lol, but she was a highschool teacher for 40 years and says that anyone who wants to teach small children is either crazy or brave.
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Old 02-14-2013, 09:18 PM
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I would probably go the CC route too. But that being said, for some reasons, here in Vancouver, even a lot of CCs want PhD candidates. My university (UBC) right now employs mostly only post doctorates... According to a brochure I read 2 or 3 years ago, as a university, 93% of our staff hold at least a PhD degree.

I guess because PhDs are getting pretty common, that the standards have been raised and the PhDs that didn't end up getting a position in universities are settling for community colleges.

Or maybe it's just my area (art history/English), a lot of smaller schools don't offer art history at all so that doesn't help.

I say go the CC route because I know quite a lot of people that teach elementary and it is a lot of work! Plus at least the schools here, are not as good with letting people teach part time for elementary so it seems more difficult to keep going to school while teaching elementary school. Plus in terms of jobs relevancy when applying to bigger colleges or universities, CCs seem closer than elementary.
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Old 02-14-2013, 09:25 PM
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I would not go into elementary ed looking for job security...I also wouldn't go into it for any reason than you really want to be an elementary teacher. I teach 8th grade. It is exhausting. If I was here just because it was the "safe" path, I'd have left halfway into my first year!

If you have any specific questions about a teaching degree, I can do my best to answer. I am a career switcher--my undergrad was in computer science/business, and I got a masters in secondary math education.
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Old 02-14-2013, 10:03 PM
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Just to clear up I positively know I want to teach, it's just a matter of where for the long term.
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I can't really help too much, but I'm TAing a bio lab right now at a university, and I love it. It is exhausting, and it can be hard, but teaching so, so fun.

Plus so many of my students are just really cool people.

Sorry if that doesn't help much. I don't like kids much (like, I don't hate them, but I'm bad at interacting with them) so I would definitely choose the CC path.
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Old 02-15-2013, 12:17 AM
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Okay this is helping a lot, along with talking to my mom and my coworker who initially suggested it (she's retired from teaching CC level).

I think tomorrow I will explore the MA route to CC. I won't retract my application for my MEd but instead see what happens while I push on. It's not closed until May so I have time to explore but I think long term I would be happier at a CC, I just need to see why opportunities exist as far as benefits.

Thank you all, it's definitely helpful talking it out.
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