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Old 02-07-2013, 05:35 PM
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Me neither and when they changed it for AKC it irritated me. There are still things out there that are SAFETY issues that they aren't addressing (tire injuries??) and they're worried about the time it takes on the table? C'mon.
I'm hoping they go to REQUIRING breakaway tires here. Our club doesn't have one but they're so much safer.
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Old 02-07-2013, 05:56 PM
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I'm hoping they go to REQUIRING breakaway tires here. Our club doesn't have one but they're so much safer.
They aren't even allowed in AKC much less required. It's madness. Instead they lowered the tire jump height 4" (so 24" jumping dogs have a 20" tired, 20" dogs have a 16" tire, etc.) which makes no logical sense especially from a safety standpoint.
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Old 02-07-2013, 06:45 PM
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They aren't even allowed in AKC much less required. It's madness. Instead they lowered the tire jump height 4" (so 24" jumping dogs have a 20" tired, 20" dogs have a 16" tire, etc.) which makes no logical sense especially from a safety standpoint.
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Old 02-07-2013, 07:19 PM
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I had my first experience with breakaways in CPE a few weeks ago. Saw a sheltie hit at the worst possible angle. So thankful for that! You can't even tell it's breakaway unless you know what to look for and your staring, why won't AKC allow them?
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Old 02-07-2013, 08:02 PM
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why won't AKC allow them?
It's in the works...actually has been for >2 years now, reportedly. But with AKC they tend to go the route of hashing every detail before acting...plus it's bureaucratic. So they are deciding things like scoring and weight requirements to displace the tires and whether the tire should auto-reset or have to be manually reset...that sort of thing. All before implementing.

They have done good things too, to be fair, like shorten the collapsed tunnel which seems to have cut down on chute entanglements, and they've be consistently at 24" weave pole spacing for quite a while now. They also only have one size of all the contacts (vs. two in CPE for instance) so you're not suddenly confronting your dog with an old sandy dogwalk with 8' planks instead of the normal 12." Equipment is consistent. So I do have faith that they will get the breakaway tire implemented but yesterday would have been lovely!
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Old 02-07-2013, 08:10 PM
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It's funny, I tend to think of the table as being sort of outdated for modern agility and am sort of surprised it's still used. I like the idea of simplifying it but I don't think I'd be sad to see it go all together.
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It's funny, I tend to think of the table as being sort of outdated for modern agility and am sort of surprised it's still used. I like the idea of simplifying it but I don't think I'd be sad to see it go all together.
We train under an AKC judge, but we've mostly been competing in NADAC where there is no table (or tire, teeter, chute...lol) I don't miss the table at all.
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Old 02-07-2013, 08:24 PM
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Practice tonight went awesome! I think we've gotten Summer over her weird tunnel aversion. I really think she just got confused and really thought 'I am supposed to run on top of the tunnel'. We had to start from scratch with a baby straight tunnel then work up to a long curved one.

Mia's got a weird thing going on the last few weeks. She is refusing to leave her kennel. I am like... WTF is this? This is the dog that looooves to go running. It started the week I tried bringing kongs to cut down on the barking. I think I may have accidentally built up the value of the crate too high. She just lays in there and watches me. It like she thinks I don't want her to come out. Typical Mia... go from one extreme of hating the crate to the other- not leaving it.

Sad news though is that my trainer can't teach us on weeknights anymore. My options- if the entire class decides to switch to Sunday nights, which could make nosework sundays difficult. But it should be ok however they will be back to back from 2-5:30, which is a long time for the dogs. I can maybe get the nosework people to try another time but the others have agility on saturdays so....

Or I can transfer into the other trainer's class. I am not sure, I think I like my trainer better, she seems more laid back. I think the other classes are either too advanced or too beginner for us. But if it comes down to it I guess I will have to switch trainers.

Also kind of sucks everything is moving to weekends. I liked having Mia have things two nights of my work week. Kept her more sane during the week.
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Me neither and when they changed it for AKC it irritated me. There are still things out there that are SAFETY issues that they aren't addressing (tire injuries??) and they're worried about the time it takes on the table? C'mon.
They did address tire injuries, they lowered the height of the tire. Which I agree, sounds stupid and useless, but in actual fact, it definitely seems to have improved things. Much less tire crashes. Which I guess on contemplation, does make sense, since the tire set at the dog's actual jump height would require them to jump higher than that height to get through it safely, so dogs who might be already pushing the limits of what they can jump, would be really struggling to clear the tire.

I'd still rather see the displaceable tire, but fair is fair, they did do something. And I still think we'll get the displaceable tire someday.

About the table... I'm another person who'd just as soon be without it. If we do have to have it, I like the positionless table. Too much inconsistency in calls on a table with a required position. I've had dogs miss Q's because the judge wouldn't start counting until both of my dogs' elbows were on the table, which is fairly difficult for an excited Stafford to do (with the muscles tensed, chest and one elbow are usually all that will reach). And they don't have any hair to hide the daylight.

I'd prefer to run my dogs, rather than loom over them trying to depress them into flattening out.
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Old 02-09-2013, 08:55 AM
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Denis came to agility last night and used a clicker for the first time last night. He was super bored about restarting Sloans weaves but quickly realized how valuable this is to figuring out what I missed (I never did enough around the clock, maybe?) and he was having a blast watching Sloan think. Of course she progressed the fastest because she's brilliant but also because she was like, "I do 12 of these straight, why the hallway?" It was fun watching him have fun with this stuff.

Meanwhile, we think Backup needs a ton more focus on the obstacles. He knows the game and has drive to enter but he does so with his head turned and watching me. We switched to a toy, after food just wasn't worth it to him, which was almost too high, at one point he did a wall turn off my legs and face planted into the floor while barking only to get up and restart like nothing happened. I wish I had an inbetween for motivators. After an hour and fifteen we made no real progress and a few times he got so frustrated he just started weaving figure rights around the two poles like SEE STUPID!? but now I know what I can work on for the week.

Sloan was back on 4 straight with round the clock work by the end and I was still lined up with a single set waiting to click when he glanced at the poles and feeling like I was betraying him after years of giving him no options but to stare at me for obed.

Any suggestions? Patience? Booze?

On the plus side we scared a woman with a small dog but the trainer kept calming her and saying that dog wants nothing to do with you or your dog, he's obsessed with his mom and his toy, relax. It was nice having someone on our side and she stopped me outside on the way home and said he's fine and she looks forward to working with him more (this weave workshop was the first agility since October as I haven't found time/money for training yet). I haven't had a lot of trainers who liked Backup because he's so over the top(he's worlds more toned down these days) so it feels good hearing that.
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