Anyone have experience with OCD; Piper's x-rays included!

[SaraB]

Sass, you and your explanations rock. Just sayin.

One of my danes had slight OCD in his shoulder, diagnosed at 8 months. We went to a consult at the University with a specialist who was doing a study on the genetic links of OCD at the time. His wasn't bad and we went the conservative route as well. 5 weeks of crate rest later, he was good to go and didn't have any problems for the time I owned him (he was 4 when he was rehomed).

[JacksonsMom]

Hmmm, so odd. This thread interests me because we've been dealing with my dads dog, Lily, something similar for a while. My dad is not really as "up" on vet care so she only ever had one x-ray of her hips, I think, once and hips were fine.

She's a JRT mix, with short legs. And since I can remember, after bursts of exercise (like out in the yard running for more than 30 mins). She keeps SO super sore and stiff later that evening. Sometimes can barely walk. She ends up walking it off, or sleeping it off, but it always happens after some form of exercise.

I've never heard of OCD and it sounds VERY similar to what Lily goes through.

[Aleron]

Originally Posted by sassafras

It would be unusual IME for a 3 year old dog to start showing symptoms of OCD. Most of them are painful by a year, and significantly.

This is sort of what I was thinking too when I read the first post.

Originally Posted by JacksonsMom

She's a JRT mix, with short legs. And since I can remember, after bursts of exercise (like out in the yard running for more than 30 mins). She keeps SO super sore and stiff later that evening. Sometimes can barely walk. She ends up walking it off, or sleeping it off, but it always happens after some form of exercise.

I've never heard of OCD and it sounds VERY similar to what Lily goes through.

What legs seem affected by this? I'd be more inclined to think back issues with a dwarfy JRT than OCD.

[kady05]

Originally Posted by sassafras

I'm sorry, ACR is "rupture" and I tend to use it a bit interchangeably w/ACL because usually if I'm talking about them, they're damaged.

But yes, that effusion can be associated with damage to the ACL but also can occur with other things that cause inflammation in the knee or joint capsule. Partial tears can be nearly impossible to feel on a physical exam (even sedated) but a partial tear wouldn't necessarily be something to pursue surgery for anyway. I think the rehab is a great first step.

Got it

That's what I'm thinking too, I'm much more into the conservative approach vs. a surgery if we can help it!

Originally Posted by SaraB

Sass, you and your explanations rock. Just sayin.

One of my danes had slight OCD in his shoulder, diagnosed at 8 months. We went to a consult at the University with a specialist who was doing a study on the genetic links of OCD at the time. His wasn't bad and we went the conservative route as well. 5 weeks of crate rest later, he was good to go and didn't have any problems for the time I owned him (he was 4 when he was rehomed).

Ugh crate rest. I'm really hoping it doesn't come to that.. she pretty much sleeps all day but in the mornings she does get excited and will run around my house a bit. I guess I'll see what the rehab place says and go from there!

Originally Posted by JacksonsMom

Hmmm, so odd. This thread interests me because we've been dealing with my dads dog, Lily, something similar for a while. My dad is not really as "up" on vet care so she only ever had one x-ray of her hips, I think, once and hips were fine.

She's a JRT mix, with short legs. And since I can remember, after bursts of exercise (like out in the yard running for more than 30 mins). She keeps SO super sore and stiff later that evening. Sometimes can barely walk. She ends up walking it off, or sleeping it off, but it always happens after some form of exercise.

I've never heard of OCD and it sounds VERY similar to what Lily goes through.

Yup, that's how Piper is. If we have bad weather and they pretty much stay inside for a couple days (aka I'm a wuss and they only get to go outside to potty if it's gross out LOL), she seems better. I have still been taking her to the park we always go to, but I keep her on lead. She pretty much "trots" the entire time we're there, so the night of that I can tell she's sore. Even still, she works out of the soreness within a few strides most nights.

Although I have been watching her more closely since this has been going on and when she stands she will sometimes shift her weight off her bad leg. So it's obviously bothering her somewhat.

[~WelshStump~]

Well, all I have to add is that if you really think or confirm it's OCD, contact Fleetwood's owner (Tazwell), she mentioned that there's a pretty good treatment for it.

Our friend has a Beauceron from a breeder who seems to be producing it in her lines, they told me at a dog show they were hoping he would do okay in the ring that day because he came back in from playing that morning limping (he was less than a year old), but when it didn't go away they had him checked out and told to rest him. Because he was rested in time he never developed lesions and has pretty decent movement now, a little choppy if not moved fast enough but that's typical of the conformation from his lines.

[milos_mommy]

I thought this was going to be about Obsessive Compulsive Disorder in dogs and I was like OH BOY DO I HAVE EXPERIENCE.

But alas, I can't help. Sending Piper get well wishes, though!

[kady05]

Originally Posted by ~WelshStump~

Well, all I have to add is that if you really think or confirm it's OCD, contact Fleetwood's owner (Tazwell), she mentioned that there's a pretty good treatment for it.

Thanks for that, will do. I had never heard of it until today so I really have no clue if that's definitely what it is, and I don't think either of my vets do either. Kind of frustrating.

Originally Posted by milos_mommy

I thought this was going to be about Obsessive Compulsive Disorder in dogs and I was like OH BOY DO I HAVE EXPERIENCE.

But alas, I can't help. Sending Piper get well wishes, though!

LOL when my vet first said "OCD" I was like "I mean.. I am slightly OCD, and she's OCD about licking people, but I don't think that's the OCD you're referring to!"

[JessLough]

Originally Posted by milos_mommy

I thought this was going to be about Obsessive Compulsive Disorder in dogs and I was like OH BOY DO I HAVE EXPERIENCE.

But alas, I can't help. Sending Piper get well wishes, though!

I was thinking Obsessive Compulsive too, then was like xrays? What?

[spiffy]

I'm thankful none of my crew had this condition. Sending healing vibes to Piper. Get well soon girl.

Sassafras' post is very informative. Thanks.

[kady05]

Thanks everyone! I'll definitely update once we get her in to the rehab place.