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Old 12-28-2012, 01:01 PM
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Yep, he's not 100% sure on it. He wants to do it repeatedly... it's an opportunity to earn cookies so he keeps going back to it. So he is game to offer it, he's just not sure what to do when he's up there. I have honestly never taught a teeter before - the very first time Auggie saw a teeter, he ran straight up it, rode it down, ran off, then immediately circled around and did it again like it was the best thing ever. No training necessary except asking for a target at the end. Because Auggie is perfect. And I know the trainer I work with would recommend I lure it, but I'm not really game to lure. Payton doesn't "get" luring for one thing, because he's been shaped so much. He looks at me like "WTF are you waving the cookie around for??"
So I just did it with the clicker and let him offer whatever he wanted on it. It's not an adjustable teeter which would have been ideal... he definitely isn't 100% sure about the movement. I'm thinking of trying to make an adjustable teeter and re-clicker training on that with it down low, then raising it up?

I haven't played Bang Games with him beyond getting him to interact with stuff that makes noise - I googled quickly, is this what you recommend?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1KXLbFkxzY

He is a hell of a tugger. I worked hard on that.
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Old 12-28-2012, 01:38 PM
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So I just did it with the clicker and let him offer whatever he wanted on it. It's not an adjustable teeter which would have been ideal... he definitely isn't 100% sure about the movement. I'm thinking of trying to make an adjustable teeter and re-clicker training on that with it down low, then raising it up?

I haven't played Bang Games with him beyond getting him to interact with stuff that makes noise - I googled quickly, is this what you recommend?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1KXLbFkxzY

He is a hell of a tugger. I worked hard on that.

I wouldn't worry about getting an adjustable teeter and retraining that way. Honestly, considering you've just shaped him on a full sized I think he's doing pretty good! Yes that is basic idea of the Bang Game. I use a chair to hold the teeter really low at first then by repositioning the chair, you can raise the height over time. That way you don't really need an adjustable teeter and the dog is learning that making the teeter move/make noise is the object (and very fun and not scary at all). I think going back to the Bang Game would really help him get that boost of confidence, which is the only thing lacking right now. He's obviously able and willing to do the full teeter, so the Bang Game will sort of isolate the area he's lacking in and work on that. And it works great with shaping

That same Youtube poster has another Bang Game vids that show how you can use an upright jump to lower the height of the teeter for the game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcwfNOAH3Fg

Here's another: http://youtu.be/OsVxN4aJyso

Here's a dog further along in it: http://youtu.be/jedeov6FIvM

It seems to progress really easily to a full teeter if you go slow and make it really rewarding. The class I'm in pretty much just does variations on this and the dogs don't seem to have any issue going between this and eventually a full teeter. Since Payton already has the shaping on the full teeter, I think it will go real easy for him for sure.
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Old 01-04-2013, 08:40 AM
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I agree with you. We need to discuss that focuses on the agility training to our dog especially the younger ones. I have also a planned to train my puppy.
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Old 01-04-2013, 09:47 AM
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Sloan is having trouble hitting her weave entrance when asked to collect in sequences. Collection is not either of my dogs strong suit (Backup can't collect over a jump to save his life) but Sloan didn't used to have this as a drastic issue. Now, from most any angle and most any distance I can practice asking her to weave and she'll hit them but if I put a jump 10 feet in front, straight on or angled, she will almost every time miss the entrance and shoot past in a way I can tell she knows she missed it.

How can I help her fix this? Should I go back to open 2 x 2s and practice that way?
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Old 01-04-2013, 09:59 AM
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Sloan is having trouble hitting her weave entrance when asked to collect in sequences. Collection is not either of my dogs strong suit (Backup can't collect over a jump to save his life) but Sloan didn't used to have this as a drastic issue. Now, from most any angle and most any distance I can practice asking her to weave and she'll hit them but if I put a jump 10 feet in front, straight on or angled, she will almost every time miss the entrance and shoot past in a way I can tell she knows she missed it.

How can I help her fix this? Should I go back to open 2 x 2s and practice that way?
Is it a traction issue? Zuma rocks entrances at our home school where we have fantastic traction, but blows by entrances on more slippery mats. Took me forever to realize it was a traction issue, not a trialing issue.

Either way, still solve it the same, I would move that jump back to where she can be successful and gradually bring it closer. I don't think I would open up the 2x2's at this time, unless it can't be solved.
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Old 01-04-2013, 10:07 AM
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Is it a traction issue? Zuma rocks entrances at our home school where we have fantastic traction, but blows by entrances on more slippery mats. Took me forever to realize it was a traction issue, not a trialing issue.

Either way, still solve it the same, I would move that jump back to where she can be successful and gradually bring it closer. I don't think I would open up the 2x2's at this time, unless it can't be solved.
The floor I've been using at my new work is more slippery than my last work. Once we've de-glassed (the previous owner must have never heard of a trash can) the yard at the new house I'll try this on grass as well.

Thanks for the tip, I was hoping to not open up and restart so I'll just try excessive space and creeping in the jump. She's really reliable without collection so it's perplexing to me.
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Old 01-07-2013, 09:34 AM
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<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/PFChzt9hp3Y" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Or if we can't embed... http://youtu.be/PFChzt9hp3Y

We're a bit rusty. :-x However, I was hoping to take Sloan for a private this week but she's in heat so this crazy nut gets to go. Wish us luck that the trainer doesn't usher us out with crosses and holy water.
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<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/PFChzt9hp3Y" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Or if we can't embed... http://youtu.be/PFChzt9hp3Y

We're a bit rusty. :-x However, I was hoping to take Sloan for a private this week but she's in heat so this crazy nut gets to go. Wish us luck that the trainer doesn't usher us out with crosses and holy water.
Who is your private with? Good luck.
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Old 01-07-2013, 01:24 PM
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Peak agility, I need to get the dogs evaluated and back into classes. Unless of course, she turns me away. lol
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Peak agility, I need to get the dogs evaluated and back into classes. Unless of course, she turns me away. lol
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You used to have to ask him where the snakes were to get him digging, but now he just digs whenever he can.
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