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Old 12-05-2012, 02:51 AM
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Oh and not to spam this thread (too late for that I guess... lol) but this morning my koi swordtail dropped her batch. Looks like about 25 babies, and there are some very faint markings on a few already. Very cute and very exciting for me. This is my first batch of the koi variety and this evening I had a somewhat related lucky find at my lfs. Someone had dropped off 3 jumbo female swordtails that are the colour scheme I have been keeping an eye out for. Their pattern is not as clean as I would have liked but I got them for a kick-ass deal (guy at the lfs did not realize how much they were worth) and the male I have in mind for them has beautiful patterning with clear cut lines. I am hoping to create a jumbo koi variety potentially with lyretail or sailfin if I like where the jumbos go. We will see how the first batch turns out though I will make plans from there.

Woohoo lots of exciting news
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Old 12-05-2012, 02:54 AM
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The tank looks great, but a few points.

1. You don't need fish to cycle a tank, and it is very stressful for them to be used to for that purpose. Do you have a friend who can take the fish while you are in the process of cycling it? Cute little guy though, endler guppy?

No, unfortunately I don't. The water's been in there for about a week, maybe a week and a half, and is so far testing okay. I've got water conditioner and stuff in there. I'm keeping an eye on them, but my mom surprised me with them.

2. Are you wanting to grow plants? I can't tell if those ones are live or not. If you do, those rocks won't be able to grow much and you should consider switching to something more suited to plants (if a planted tank is what you are after). If the gravel is too big the substrate won't be able to hold nutrients because the water will wash it all away as it moves through the rocks. Adversely, if the substrate is too small, it will suffocate the roots. Ideally you want to aim for something about 2mm in diameter.

They are live plants. I do want a pretty heavily planted tank, but I'm not sure what plants I'm going to go with yet. Do you think a mixture of the large river rocks and sand would be okay, or should I switch to sand, because I do want to add the corys and I think you said those need sand to sift though, or should I try to go with a smaller gravel and sand mixture for the whole tank to run more efficiently?

I am so excited for you that you got your tank up and running!
Me too! It's been a pain to have all the water in there with the rocks but having to wait to get the rest of the equipment. I'd only planned on adding the plants for another few weeks, but my mom went back after I was done and got the fish for me. :/ I wish she'd gotten the driftwood pieces I'd been eyeing, but she didn't. I'm hoping everything will be okay though.

They're an assortment of fancy guppies and lyretails. I like them quite a bit, and was pointing them out to her which is why she got them for me. The store didn't carry koi swordtails or pencilfish thankfully lol

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The tank looks ridiculously empty right now too lol. I may need to find some plants that will grow to be taller just to fill in the space at the back of the tank! Eventually I'd like to get a 3D background, but that's a long way out. I'm thinking I'm going to try to find a large piece of driftwood at the local fish store (lfs, I like that lol) and see what types of plants will root on it and grow like that.
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Old 12-05-2012, 05:32 AM
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Me too! It's been a pain to have all the water in there with the rocks but having to wait to get the rest of the equipment. I'd only planned on adding the plants for another few weeks, but my mom went back after I was done and got the fish for me. :/ I wish she'd gotten the driftwood pieces I'd been eyeing, but she didn't. I'm hoping everything will be okay though.

They're an assortment of fancy guppies and lyretails. I like them quite a bit, and was pointing them out to her which is why she got them for me. The store didn't carry koi swordtails or pencilfish thankfully lol

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The tank looks ridiculously empty right now too lol. I may need to find some plants that will grow to be taller just to fill in the space at the back of the tank! Eventually I'd like to get a 3D background, but that's a long way out. I'm thinking I'm going to try to find a large piece of driftwood at the local fish store (lfs, I like that lol) and see what types of plants will root on it and grow like that.
Ok in terms of plants, if you want to go heavily planted you will definitely need to switch out the river rocks to something much smaller. You could throw some river rocks in intermittently, but if you wanted to go that route I would actually recommend picking several larger rocks and using them to create focal points in the tank. That would look more aesthetically pleasing, imo, than spreading around a bunch of small-medium sized rocks. An example of a few larger rocks would be like this:

http://i.imgur.com/nukug.jpg
http://www.stuworrallphotography.co....he_unknown.jpg

And here is an example with rock and driftwood:

http://www.projectaquarium.com/aquar..._hardscape.jpg

Now in terms of substrate, it depends on several factors. If you want to keep corydoras species, I really think sand is the only way to go. They love sifting through it and seem most happy with sand bottoms. However, sand is not ideal for plants. That being said, you can absolutely make it work. Here is a breakdown of your options as I see it.

Plant-Specific Substrate
Pros: looks good (imo), grows plants well
Cons: expensive, not ideal for sand-sifting species

Gravel
Pros: can grow plants ok, can look good (but can also look terrible lol), cheap
Cons: not good for sand-sifters, not ideal for plants

Sand
Pros: looks good (imo), great for sand-sifters
Cons: needs to be aerated, not ideal for plants

Personally, I went with the sand and the reason I did so was because having sand-sifting bottom fish was important to me AND because sand can be made suitable (like gravel) for plants with the addition of root tab fertilizers. They cost around $12-15 at an aquarium store and you can put them in the substrate to provide nutrients for the plants. The plant-specific substrates basically just have root tabs crushed and spread throughout them so you don't have to worry about feeding the roots. In order to make a decision here though, you have to decide what is important to you and then base your decision off that.

It's great that you have a test kit, and guppies are pretty tough fish so as long as you are diligent about keeping an eye on your ammonia, nitrites and nitrates you should be ok. Do you know how hard your tap water is? Guppies prefer water on the harder side and tend to die and waste away in soft water with a lack of minerals.

I agree with you, the tank would look really good with a big focal point. Just a heads up, if you want to do a background I really recommend doing it now before moving ahead with planting and putting in a new substrate. You have to have the tank completely dry and silicone the background to the glass, which then needs to dry for 48 hours. So that is a job you definitely don't want to do once your tank is established as you would essentially have to take the entire thing down and start again from scratch.
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Old 12-05-2012, 09:31 AM
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I use the Walstad Method for planted tanks, or natural planted tanks. I use a good potting soil (with no chemicals, ferts, etc) and cap it with either small gravel or sand. I like it because the plants dont grow super fast (needing lots of trims etc) and because I want low maintenance. Downsides are you dont get those totally lush and beautifully landscaped tanks you see (although you can get a very very nice tank) and your plants are more limited.

For my 20 g, still debating on what to stock it with. I am debating Kribs right now, or possible some bolivian rams.

My 75 I hope to get started in a couple months (LOOOONG story is there is a slight possibility we may move so I am waiting to see what direction that moves first) and sigh, I just can not make up my mind on that one at all. I REALLY want a severum...but I also really want plants.
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Old 12-05-2012, 09:37 AM
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Oh and in regards to cycling, I agree fishless is the way to go BUT, since fish are already there, try using some SafeStart. It used to be biospira and came refrigerated (which I trusted more) but this seems to work pretty well too. Its better than nothing at the very least Or if you have any friends with a healthy tank up and running, use some of their filter media.
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Old 12-06-2012, 01:57 PM
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Driftwood finally sank

Cian loves this piece. He walked around the LFS holding it like a baby lol.

Of course, the tank is only about 1/3 filled and there is a lot of floating stuff from the dirt I need to skim out but I think once everything starts filling in it will look cool. I am horrible at aquascaping. Maybe it needs some rocks?





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Old 12-06-2012, 06:26 PM
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Pretty!!

I came home with a flowerhorn tonight. Probably one of the better looking ones I've ever seen.
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Been slowly working on building my tank again. I used some Safe-T-Sorb for the substrate, have some driftwood in there. Nothing green yet, I need a plan! Have a very pretty good sized Leopard Gourami, a Clown Pleco, some Distichodus Affinis, and a Geophagus sp Red head. Need to get some pics!
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any new pictures.

I want to get a tank and put it up. Not sure where yet, any my husband isn't thrilled with the idea, but I'm pretty sure I don't really care.
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I need to work on my tanks SO BAD.

For someone who's job is primarily aquarium fish, my home tanks are pitiful. I also managed to kill all of my goldfish. Goldfish are the most challenging for me...I kept two for few months, thought I was going to move, and found them a home. Now that I try to go back to goldfish, I brought three home, and they got some weird infections and passed. Of course all my white cloud minnows are alive and thriving, and I kill my goldies :/.
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