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Old 12-04-2012, 05:48 PM
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Oh yes, I would also like the third the word document too, anyone could very easily copy-paste it into an email, and then there's no annoying third party site either who could possible malfunction and loose emails or send you a lot of spam.
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Old 12-04-2012, 07:42 PM
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Is everyone in your household in agreement with adding a dog to the family?
Not picking on you, as I understand why this question is asked, but it drives me crazy.

My boyfriend isn't the biggest fan of dogs. If we lived together, he would not be thrilled with the idea of me getting another dog - but at the end of the day, it doesn't matter. It would be my responsibility, not his. As long as I added a non-drooler to the household, it wouldn't be something that would stress our relationship to the breaking point or something - he just wouldn't be the one going "YAY MORE DOGS."

When I lived with my parents, my dad was not on board with getting a dog. At all. We argued and argued over it and finally gave up when he agreed that he would at least not complain about me bringing one home. Now, several years later, after I've moved out? Guess who calls me at work to tell me how much he misses Middie, and asks when I'll be dropping him off again for a couple days. My parents even considered getting another dog.
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Old 12-04-2012, 07:43 PM
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I do ask the fence and house question, but it's mainly 'do you rent or own' and 'do you have a fenced yard or dog run'. Renting is the main concern, in that they need to make sure it's ok to have a dog there, and make sure they aren't going to do what many do and dump the dog because they can't find a place to rent with them in a year.

The fence just so I have an idea of what the situation is, a smart person would have already thought of that and had a solution and likely would put that in their application. But if they live in the country and have no intention of doing a fence, and assume the dog will 'learn' to stay in the area around the house, then they're not getting a border collie from me.

I also ask if they plan to have children in the next 15 years, simply because some people don't get the concern there, and some think 'hey, we'll be having a baby in six months, let's get a puppy now' which of course won't work. Like other dogs, it's better to have some space between baby and puppy if possible.

Color of dog, you'll get the best pick for your home, but if you don't care what color it's different than 'really want a merle' and then there's the 'I want a split face tri with one blue eye and one brown eye and prick ears'.

All concerns, even the color if it comes up, are things to bring up and educate the person with, even if they don't like it.
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Old 12-04-2012, 07:47 PM
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Not picking on you, as I understand why this question is asked, but it drives me crazy.

My boyfriend isn't the biggest fan of dogs. If we lived together, he would not be thrilled with the idea of me getting another dog - but at the end of the day, it doesn't matter. It would be my responsibility, not his. As long as I added a non-drooler to the household, it wouldn't be something that would stress our relationship to the breaking point or something - he just wouldn't be the one going "YAY MORE DOGS."

When I lived with my parents, my dad was not on board with getting a dog. At all. We argued and argued over it and finally gave up when he agreed that he would at least not complain about me bringing one home. Now, several years later, after I've moved out? Guess who calls me at work to tell me how much he misses Middie, and asks when I'll be dropping him off again for a couple days. My parents even considered getting another dog.

I know someone where that did come up though. The husband came and talked to her, did all the contact, filled out the forms.... and so on. When asked he'd say his wife was busy, then she wasn't feeling well, then oh, she didn't like big dogs AT ALL. It wasn't a toy breed they were going to be bringing home, but the well educated man seemed to think his wife, who liked little dogs (to look at really), would fall in love with the cute puppy and be fine with being home with the pup on her own all day and when he traveled. So, the breeder said she HAD to come to see her and meet the dogs and chat before going any further. Wife came, sat on the couch like a stone, totally scared of the dogs and admitted it wasn't her idea, and she was assuming she could leave puppy in the crate all day and just view the pup from 'afar' sorta thing. They got their deposit back.
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Old 12-04-2012, 08:01 PM
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I also ask if they plan to have children in the next 15 years, simply because some people don't get the concern there, and some think 'hey, we'll be having a baby in six months, let's get a puppy now' which of course won't work. Like other dogs, it's better to have some space between baby and puppy if possible.
Just to address this real quick, this is why it's not always right to generalize. We got Strider at 9 weeks old when my daughter was 2 weeks old and it worked wonderfully. I'm really glad his breeder didn't see a problem with it.

Kaia's breeder placed her litter and handled the puppy buyers. She has a questionnaire with basic stuff on it like people posted on here.

And color isn't a huge deal to me, if someone has a preference that's fine. It's not the priority by any means, but if there's a tri puppy and a red puppy that both would fit their homes and needs perfectly, and they prefer a red, I wouldn't have a problem placing the red based on preference.

Some day I may get more into zois. If I do and have a website, I'll probably have a questionnaire, but emphasize that there are no right and wrong answers. That every puppy is different, and it's just to help determine which puppy and home are the most ideal fits for each other.
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Old 12-04-2012, 08:33 PM
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I know someone where that did come up though. The husband came and talked to her, did all the contact, filled out the forms.... and so on. When asked he'd say his wife was busy, then she wasn't feeling well, then oh, she didn't like big dogs AT ALL. It wasn't a toy breed they were going to be bringing home, but the well educated man seemed to think his wife, who liked little dogs (to look at really), would fall in love with the cute puppy and be fine with being home with the pup on her own all day and when he traveled. So, the breeder said she HAD to come to see her and meet the dogs and chat before going any further. Wife came, sat on the couch like a stone, totally scared of the dogs and admitted it wasn't her idea, and she was assuming she could leave puppy in the crate all day and just view the pup from 'afar' sorta thing. They got their deposit back.
Situations like that are exactly why the question gets asked. (And I'm a little amazed at that dude's lies. I've always been honest of how everyone in the household feels, at least.) But in my experience it can turn out well. I don't think it should be a deal breaker in every case.
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Old 12-04-2012, 08:58 PM
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I don't mind filling out Questionnaires. I get a bit irritated when asked if I have a fence in yard. Not that I don't understand the reason behind it. We have a run that can be put up if needed. However, I feel that when I say no, I don't have a fenced in yard that I'm automatically disqualified from getting a puppy. We do not us underground fences, nor do we have a fence up. What we do do is place hundreds of white flags around our property and boundary train. Our dogs are never outside alone, regardless of weather conditions. If they have to go potty someone goes with them. We train our dogs to know how far they can go and have never lost one due to not having a fence. I just feel that it CAN be an unfair question.
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Old 12-04-2012, 09:09 PM
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The 'will you have a child in 10 years' Qs really, really weird me out. Not everyone plans their life out that far in the future, really.
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Old 12-04-2012, 09:29 PM
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If someone was pregnant but said 'I know it's hard to have a puppy and a baby but this is how we'll deal with it, then I'd be fine. It's more to make sure the people have thought things out and realize that they aren't going to be dumping the pup in a month, year or decade because they start their human family. Seen it happen too many times.

Fence, same thing, you don't need a fence, but how will you work that out? Chain the dog up, put out some snowfence and hope the dog knows to stay in it? Leashwalk and supervise? Invisible fence on a baby puppy?


With anything it's how they answer and so on more than what they answer, unless there's a huge red flag in something they say or do. For a while I know a lot of golden breeders asked if they knew anyone with an intact poodle, or what they thought of goldendoodles, because every other person wanted to get a golden and breed doodles.... sigh.
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Old 12-05-2012, 11:08 AM
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Fence, same thing, you don't need a fence, but how will you work that out? Chain the dog up, put out some snowfence and hope the dog knows to stay in it? Leashwalk and supervise? Invisible fence on a baby puppy?
Sorry, I don't mean to go off topic, but I read that and had to laugh out loud! We have a section of 3' high chicken wire around some garden boxes, and for the life of her, Enda wont go over it! And yet, some how, that's where her ball ends up, at least once every play session. Nope, wont go over it, so she run as fast as she can around it, and around and around, maybe stop and bark, paw/dig at the fence, until someone comes to "rescue" it.
Every dog is an individual, I don't know still as I would trust her the same at an outdoor venue off leash with orange snow fence around the ring though.
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