Thoughts on Border Collie breeders in/near Ontario?

[Oko]

Originally Posted by BostonBanker

Creekside Border Collies are my absolute favorite I know quite a few of them well, and know the breeder a bit. If my friend ever breeds her male from there, I will be living out of my car so I don't have to deal with my condos 2-dog limit, and selling my soul so I can have a puppy. He's pretty much my favorite dog ever other than my own (and some days he might move ahead of Gusto ).

Awesome, glad to hear a 2nd rec! Do you know which litter he's from? The breeder I'm currently looking at on my side of the border's dog sired two of Creekside's litters.

[AllieMackie]

Originally Posted by vandog

I have met plenty of Powertripp and TNT dogs.

Right now PT is planning a litter between Shayde (a Rival kennel bred dog) and Imp. Jim. Jim is smooth and Shayde doesn't have much coat, so you won't be dealing with gobs of hair. It should be an excellent breeding. They don't breed very often, and I don't know if they even have room on their current list. PT lines main sire has produced epilepsy - the breeder discloses this - but the breeding occurring now is entirely unrelated to that male. Every PT I've met was soft over hard, but not excessively soft. They were outgoing, social and happy dogs.
PM me if you want further information or have specific questions.

Ivan Weir's Jim? That's exactly the stud for my breeder's current litter. The dam is HL's Beauty, who is a sister to Finn's sire. Fun fact!

[BostonBanker]

Awesome, glad to hear a 2nd rec! Do you know which litter he's from? The breeder I'm currently looking at on my side of the border's dog sired two of Creekside's litters.

My favorite is from the 2006 litter; she also has one from the 2008 Mirk litter who is very cool, although much less my kind of dog.

I used to house-sit for another one from the 2006 litter that was also a super cool dog, and very much the type I would want to live and work with. Overall, I just really like every dog I've seen from there.

[~Tucker&Me~]

Spy is out of a TNT bitch, but not bred by Tiffany.

He has fabulous focus and is as biddable as I had hoped. He also has never had problems with an off-switch, he calms right down and sleeps in the house no problem. That's what I love about him, *always* ready to do an activity but very quick to relax and take the hint that the game is over.

[Sekah]

I'm planning way WAY early and won't be getting a BC pup for at least 1 or 2 years, if not more. So I'll not be looking at any planned breedings any time soon.

I imagine that most BCs out of working and/or sport lines won't be registered with the CKC, right?

Seeing as how I want to do competitive obedience with the dog, how do most people do this? Do they compete in the CKC with a PEN? I admit all I know of obedience is the CKC stuff -- I can't even remember the names of the other clubs that offer competitions. Are these other clubs active in S. Ontario?

I'm feeling really torn between going working or sporter collie. I think the deciding factor will be chatting with breeders and finding one that clicks for me, since I'm hearing the same desirable traits I'm looking for on both sides.


e: I've also had my eye on Creekside for a little while. I don't necessarily love the look of their dogs, but I've heard them spoken of very well.

Planning this several years in advance I feel like I have the opportunity to be really picky about the look of my dog. Colour-wise, I really don't care (blue merle would be nice... but that's the Aussie lover in me coming out). I just want a medium length coat, a nicelyconformation. formed head (some BCs have some zany stops) and good overall

[Lizmo]

I would imagine sport-bred would be very much eligible for CKC. Working-bred would just need to be PAL/or whatever the CKC version of this is.

[Kilter]

I was told before that if the dog had CBCA papers, you had to get the breeder of the dog to sign the CKC form to get registration. But calling the CKC direct, they said no, like any registry, the dog is registered, they just issue the number. A CBCA breeder may not want you to get the CKC number though, some are funny that way, but you can pretty much just do it with your papers without them anyhow.

[Oko]

Originally Posted by BostonBanker

My favorite is from the 2006 litter; she also has one from the 2008 Mirk litter who is very cool, although much less my kind of dog.

I used to house-sit for another one from the 2006 litter that was also a super cool dog, and very much the type I would want to live and work with. Overall, I just really like every dog I've seen from there.

Not to keep on hijacking this thread, but I shall one more time. Ah, my potential puppy breeder's dog is Imp. Chip, so not related to those ones, just their other 2008 litter and their 2010 litter are the ones he sired. Cheers anyway!

[Sekah]

I'm bumping this thread to ask what people's impressions are of Cedar Border Collies.

http://cedarbordercollies.com/index.html

I know that they bred S. Garrett's Buzz, and quite honestly, that is NOT the type of dog I'm looking for. He seems too difficult and driven for a relatively green handler like me.

However, these dogs are GORGEOUS, and I'd be lying if I said that looks weren't important to me. I also know that breeders breeding solely for red BCs aren't exactly ideal - I don't care if my future BC is black or red.

What sort of temperaments do these dogs tend to have? Would you describe them as stable? Or no?

First and foremost I'm looking for a stable family companion, and performance is secondary.

[Shai]

Well and if I'm not mistaken, Garrett hasn't gotten another dog from them and has criticized Buzz's structure quite a bit. She's gotten her more recent dogs from Bo-Tyne I think?

Another Ontario breeder is Rival BCs. The only dogs I've met from them are Linda Mecklenburg's but they seem rational as well as driven and biddable. Small sample and with an exceptional trainer, though. I don't know anything about their breeding practices.