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Old 11-07-2012, 08:54 AM
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People seem to forget or refused to acknowledge that Romney's economic plan did not add up and the top experts on the matter claim that it would only work if he increase taxes on the middle class by $2000(while given the rich more tax cuts)and cut many social programs that help the middle class. It wasn't a red flag to people when Joe Biden ask Paul Ryan if the Republicans wanted to cut taxes for the middle class why are they refusing to sign a bill that would, and Paul Ryan stated they wanted to cut taxes starting with the rich.... It wasn't a red flag to people that the six studies that claim his plan would work were blogs, an opinion of a professor, and his own team's report that it would work. It wasn't a red flag to people that Romney refused to go into detail on what tax loop holes he will close until after he won the election. It wasn't a red flag to people that he wanted to increase the money given to the military by two trillion dollars in an economy where we should be putting that money back to fixing America.

Yeah, I much much more confident in Obama's economic plan for the future.
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Old 11-07-2012, 08:55 AM
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The comments on FB are pretty disheartening . ".you are the individuals who hasd and still have no clue what or who or why you voted and you obviously voted wrong..." That's just...ick.
People on BOTH sides are behaving like little children with absolutely no class and no respect for other people. I could pull quotes that are far more insulting than "you voted wrong." Some of them in other threads on this forum.

Neither side is innocent of spewing hatred and venom.

And unfortunately it will never stop.

Bi-partisan my ass. People only want to be bi-partisan when "their" party is in power. And by "bi-partisan" they mean "you stop believing in what you believe in and believe what I believe in." Compromise isn't a "thing" in politics. And why should it be? Look at how we the people behave. Nobody knows how to play nice. Politicians aren't held to any kind of higher standard because we don't even hold ourselves to a higher standard.

Every single election, no matter who wins or loses, people continually disgust me. Only a whopping THREE of my friends have massively impressed me with their grace and dignity yesterday and today... and one of them is even on the opposing side.

I am a highly political person. But I hate politics.
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People seem to forget or refused to acknowledge that Romney's economic plan did not add up and the top experts on the matter claim that it would only work if he increase taxes on the middle class by $2000(while given the rich more tax cuts). It wasn't a red flag to people when Joe Biden ask Paul Ryan if the Republicans wanted to cut taxes for the middle class why are they refusing to sign a bill that would, and Paul Ryan stated they wanted to cut taxes starting with the rich.... It wasn't a red flag to people that the six studies that claim his plan would work were blogs, an opinion of a professor, and his own team's report that it would work. It wasn't a red flag to people that Romney refused to go into detail on what tax loop holes he will close until after he won the election. It wasn't a red flag to people that he wanted to increase the money given to the military by two trillion dollars in an economy where we should be putting that money back to fixing America.

Yeah, I much much more confident in Obama's economic plan for the future.
This.

The economist did endorse Obama for president.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoz...for-president/

Just because I consider human rights issues to be more important doesn't mean Obama's economic decisions weren't a factor in my choice.
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Old 11-07-2012, 08:59 AM
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A girl on my FB made numerous posts about how Obama and his socialist ways made her want to move to Europe and or Canada. Then last night she posted about how she couldn't believe how stupid Americans were. LOL Pot, meet Kettle.
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Old 11-07-2012, 09:06 AM
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I had to bring football into this. I hate the Vikings, because they are the Vikings But Chris Kluwe is pretty cool in my book. When I was over there and heard his radio add, I laughed my ass off. Filled 2 purposes, entertained and had a message. So now I hate all Vikings, but one

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Old 11-07-2012, 09:14 AM
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I had to bring football into this. I hate the Vikings, because they are the Vikings But Chris Kluwe is pretty cool in my book. When I was over there and heard his radio add, I laughed my ass off. Filled 2 purposes, entertained and had a message. So now I hate all Vikings, but one

Have a listen http://www.minnpost.com/sites/defaul...enoradio60.mp3
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Old 11-07-2012, 09:22 AM
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Can't say I'm happy with the results... But my opinion is worthless either way since I can't yet vote for this country... I'm still in the process of becoming a US citizen lol.
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I can't separate human rights -- basic acknowledgement of human dignity and right to pursue life, liberty and happiness -- and making a living, from economic issues.

Really, would we be in this economic morass if it weren't for greed?

And isn't greed, at it's base, a denial of the rights of humans other than oneself? Doesn't it fly in the face of every facet of basic human decency?

If a group wants to deny another group basic civilities based on a difference in lifestyle or ethnic background or religious/philosophical differences, what would lead any rational, sane, thinking person to believe they're going to forego that sort of bigotry and elitism on the economic front?
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Old 11-07-2012, 09:41 AM
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That said, I have NO faith in trickle down economics.
Me, either. The theory of trickle down economics does not take human behavior into account. If a theory could expunge the sins of greed and selfishness from the human breast, then I'd get behind it, but... people are people.

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A girl on my FB made numerous posts about how Obama and his socialist ways made her want to move to Europe and or Canada. Then last night she posted about how she couldn't believe how stupid Americans were. LOL Pot, meet Kettle.
God I love stuff like this. And it allows me once again to pull out one of my very, very favorites:

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Old 11-07-2012, 09:47 AM
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People on BOTH sides are behaving like little children with absolutely no class and no respect for other people. I could pull quotes that are far more insulting than "you voted wrong." Some of them in other threads on this forum.
Oh definitely. I just find it quite..offensive..and almost hypocritical? I can't find the right words..but I think I'll avoid this thread and FB for a few days .
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